What do you think an EE is considered????

[Tailfeathers]

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And so now we are down to "Who's" definition of "standard definition" will be used. So once again it is not "whether" there is an "Authority" but rather what authority one chooses to recognize.

Sort of reminds me of God. Either we are a creation in His image or we create Him in our image. Many people claim to have a hold on The Truth but in the end there is only one Truth.

No Amazon, I'm not saying there are "no Splash varieties recognized by the APA". I am still waiting on the new APA Standard to be released (supposed to be soon) and then I will be able to speak on all breeds. As for now, I can only speak to those that I breed.

God Bless,

 

[rebelcowboysnb]

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Dont know how ya got that. All I said was I wont breed an sell anything as a breed if it dont breed true. If it does I will. I do sell EEers as mutt EEers. Not becouse the APA or anyone elce says there not pure but becouse they dont breed true, close but not yet. I have several so called breeds that dont breed true so I chose not to sell them without saying there a cross or mix. People just expect something called "pure" to breed true so thats the definition that I use as a guide. That goes for chickens, dogs, cats, fish or polecats.

 

[blackclownfish16]

So then seramas would not be a breed because I know of none that breed true to color. Also silkied seramas pop up and different sizes. I believe ee's are a variety because they do generally have the same characteristics (beard,peacomb, green legs, blue/green/pink eggs) even though colors are not the same. I know a guy who has just had a flock of ee's for about 10 years. Nothing else. Even though the colors are different, the birds are very similiar (not due to inbreeding). I would say that ee's and seramas for that matter are varieties like frizzled or rose combed versions of a breed. Varieties of what you say? Who knows but I classify them as varieties, only birds recognized by the apa and aba are breeds in my opinion.

In regards to splash, silkies are also recognized. I think that the apa holds the original wisdom that splash birds were just off colored sports of blue (back in the day before genetic knowledge). It shouldn't be too hard to get a splash variety recognized for any blue breed.

 

[Mahonri]

EE breeders unite!

Sorry, just needed to smile.

 

[americana-chick]

You all make very good points. but in th end we will either believe what the SOP 'standard of perfection' or forget that and believe what we want. So couldnt any chicken be considered a breed if yjey make generations of themselves? and i see you all talking about how araucanas dont meet the standard but how are they considered a breed?
i guess you could look at people, in a way we have 'different breeds' of each other but luckily there us no standard of perfection for us. no matter how people look we are all suppose to be treated the same.
~Bri

 

[Cetawin]

I say

to the site... and EE is what an EE is

green legged, funny, sweet, lap chicken that can lay any color egg it wants to lay and be any color it wants to be. I love em! I have 4 of them and no two alike.

 

[speckledhen]

They are terrific birds, the EEs. I think the breed discussion could be a separate thread, not just in regard to EEs.

 

[americana-chick]

I know that it isnt possible for every color or type of bird to be recognised, i mean EEs have a whole lotta differnt colors to even keep track of! i have an EE that i have never seen another EE like her! i think she is a blue wheaten ameraucana * maybe even a blue ameraucana! she has the look of a blue wheaten but hasblue on her beard, and somewhat on her head which makes me think her father was a blue wheaten and her mother was a blue. its hard to explain what she looks like, but i wonder why they dont really consider all ameraucanas, "even the ones that there parents where pre just differnt colors" that may be just a bit off from the 'normal' ameraucana be considered an EE.
We could go on and on and say why not? all we want but it would take a lot of us to change the standard of perfetion or get at least one color of the EE considered a breed if we wanted to that is.
~Bri

 

[americana-chick]

does anyone know the differnece between a wheaten and a blue wheaten ameraucana???
thanks!
~Bri

 

[Sonoran Silkies]

On blue wheatens, the black is diluted to blue.