What do you think an EE is considered????

Discussion in 'General breed discussions & FAQ' started by americana-chick, Feb 17, 2009.

  1. americana-chick

    americana-chick Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Well, i did some research and found a few websites stating differnt things like, if an EE or other wize known as easter egger was considered a breed or not, in my oppinion if the 'breed' has a name it is considered a breed, maybe not a pure breed but maybe a breed. according to eastereggers.com the EE does have a standard of perfection,
    Breed General Description and STANDARDS OF PERFECTION

    The standards of perfection established below are that of the "Ideal Easter Egger"
    Birds that do not meet these "Standards of Perfection" are still considered Easter Eggers, but not of the same high quality.

    Weight: Typical large fowl 5-7 pounds
    Color: All
    Comb Type/Wattles: Pea Comb/ small or non-existant
    Beard and Muffs: Full, well-rounded, medium length (These are the norm, however some have been developed without these traits)
    Head: Medium size.
    Face: Nearly hidden by muffs.
    Eyes: Expressive
    Beak: Curved.
    Ear Lobes: Small..
    Neck: Well-arched
    Hackel: Full.
    Back: Medium length.
    Leg Color: Green is typical but other colors include, willow, slate, yellow.

    Rooster
    Saddle: Medium in length
    Tail: Well spread, medium length, carried at 45º above horizontal.
    Wings: Fairly large, tips carried above the hock joint.
    Breast: Prominent.
    Body & Stearn: Body of medium length, stern well-tucked up.

    Hen.
    Cushion: Moderate.
    Tail: Medium length, well spread, carried at 40º angle above horizontal.
    Wings: Fairly prominent, carried above the hock joint.
    Breast: Full.
    Body & Stearn:Full but trim, fluff well-tucked up.

    Personality: Generally friendly, Non Agressive

    Egg Color: Green, Blue, Green Blue, Olive Green, Sea Green, Tinted (Pink)

    STANDARD WEIGHTS for LARGE FOWL

    Cock 6½ lbs
    Hen 5½ lbs
    Cockerel 5½ lbs
    Pullet 4½ lbs


    STANDARD WEIGHTS for BANTAMS

    Cock 30 oz
    Hen 26 oz
    Cockerel 26 oz
    Pullet 24 oz

    The EECOA Standard Of Perfection Discounts Any Chicken Which Exhibits

    Tufts
    Does Not Exhibit Tail Feathers (Rumpless);
    These are considered by EECOA to be rejects from the breeding practices of Aruacana breeders.
    Any comb other then pea.
    The above types are considered a subclass of the Easter Egger breed.

    Further, The Following Color Types Are Not Recognized by EECOA:
    The following color types are not considered to be Easter Egger's, only as they are defined by the A.P.A. and their classification of the following as a separate breed.
    Black
    Blue
    Blue Wheaten
    Brown Red
    Buff
    Silver
    Wheaten
    White
    Birds that exhibit the colors listed above, but do not exhibit the traits associated with the A.P.A. Classified breed Ameraucana and DO exhibit traits associated with the Easter Egg chicken ARE EASTER EGGERS


    I havnt met a single person who ownes EEs say they dont like them. I know that EEs come in all colors, etc. but to me they really are something. i mean, its not very often that you can find a 'breed' that lays egg colors from green to pink, can have tufts, beards, and even green legs! and for the most part most EEs have the same body type from what i have seen.

    So what do you think? Should an EE be considered a breed or not? Try going to http://www.eastereggers.com/#a to find out more information on EEs and if you go to the EE links page there are links of places that carry EEs, and that believe EEs are a breed. BYC is even listed on there! [​IMG]


    make sure you say what you think!
    ~Bri
     
  2. speckledhen

    speckledhen Intentional Solitude Premium Member

    Well, the site is sort of a joke, as in "tongue-in-cheek". If you read this stuff, you see where they're coming from. They say they are "thumbing their noses at the APA" so it's sort of for revenge. Guess someone told whoever started the site that they had EEs and they got their hackles up.

    If you have found that you have an Araucana , an Aruacana reject, or an Ameraucana,do not despair, you still have a fine chicken that will produce colorful eggs, and with a little crossbreeding, you too can be an Easter Egger breeder in good standing.

    To be called an established breed, it must breed true. And you can have EEs in white, black, blue, etc. regardless of what they say.

    I have been a breeder of Ameraucanas and I never denigrated EEs. They are fun birds and I have two of them in addition to my Ameraucanas. I just hate it when an EE is sold as an Ameraucana. It's dishonesty in advertising at worst or just ignorance of the facts, at best.

    I love Easter Eggers and I love Ameraucanas.​
     
  3. rebelcowboysnb

    rebelcowboysnb Confederate Money Farm

    I don't call any animal a breed that wont breed true generation after generation without having to jump threw hoops. If you take two animals an breed them together an all the kids look like the parents an then there kids look like them its a breed. If not its a mutt that can be reproduced with selective breeding.

    I don't show birds I sell them. If I can hatch chicks an sell them an be able to point to the parents an say to my customer that there birds will like like that, its a breed. If not, its a mutt. I see breeds of all kinds of animals that breed true. Just because some group does not recognize them dose not change the fact that they do breed true. So there still a breed.
     
  4. americana-chick

    americana-chick Chillin' With My Peeps

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    thats what i thought too. it did sound kinda like a joke! i just wanted to see what others thought about 'EECOA' or easter egger club of america as they like to call it and if you thought EEs where considered a breed.
    thanks!
    ~Bri
     
  5. moduckman

    moduckman Chillin' With My Peeps

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    A novelty.
     
  6. amazondoc

    amazondoc Cracked Egghead

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    Quote:This description includes araucanas as well as any blue chicken variety. [​IMG]
     
  7. speckledhen

    speckledhen Intentional Solitude Premium Member

    Well, I was reading on this subject. To be called a breed, it must breed true at least 50% (some say 75%) of the time. Blues would qualify.

    In the world of animal breeding, to "breed true" means that specimens of an animal breed will breed true-to-type when mated like-to like; that is, that the progeny of any two individuals in the same breed will show consistent, replicable and predictable characteristics

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    (From Wikipedia)​
     
  8. americana-chick

    americana-chick Chillin' With My Peeps

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    So lets say, i have an EE roo and a EE hen that looks the same and they make generations and generations of the same color EE would they be considered a breed then? not really all EEs just the color of EE i bred together.
    thanks!
    ~Bri
     
  9. amazondoc

    amazondoc Cracked Egghead

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    They'd qualify at the 50% level, but not the 75%. And araucanas don't meet either one. [​IMG]
     
  10. rebelcowboysnb

    rebelcowboysnb Confederate Money Farm

    Quote:This description includes araucanas as well as any blue chicken variety. [​IMG]

    Yep! Blues are reproducible mutts. And anyone breading them should tell anyone buying them that even tho they breed true to type, the color does not breed true. An I bet most do tell them something like that.
     

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