My Shamo cock, as requested. This is the latest and not the best photo of him. He's 28 inches tall and the weight, I haven't weighed him in a long time. . . He represents a good idea of Oriental Gamefowl. Not always at or above 30 inches but still pretty big and very well muscled. Also, Oriental Gamefowl (Asil, Thai, Malay, Shamo, etc) have "hard feathering" so it's pressed firmly against the body, thus, they only APPEAR skinny, but in fact are more muscled and filled out than your average bird. Rodriguezpoultry has a very good photo of one of her blue Langshan cocks that represent their awesome size.