mom'sfolly :
don't look Ethel.....
don't look Ethel.....
What is your definition of "needs" and "wants"
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mom'sfolly :
I disagree with many of you....
Yes, basic needs for survival are food, shelter, water, for basic survival. However, the world has changed vastly since the Great Depression. In 1930, the US was almost evenly divided between rural and urban (45% to 55%), now only about 20% of the population lives in a rural area. Every major city in the US had a good, cheap, public transportation system in the 1930s, this is not true today. What needs are now versus what needs were then are different.
Most people live far from land and can't grow or hunt their own food, so access to food supplies is necessary. Transportation is an absolute necessity, to food supplies and for food supplies. This means roads and railroads are not a want but a need. An individual vehicle may or may not be a want. If it is required for you to do your job, or get to your job, it is not a want. I feel that a job or source of income is a necessity. If you have no source of money, then you can't obtain the things you need to live...food, shelter, water, clothing. Good luck getting someone to provide water to you if you don't pay them. Ditto with food. So stores, and jobs are needs, not wants. I think medical care is a need also. If you have cancer, diabetes, any chronic illness, or even have or want to have children then you need medical care. Even if you don't want to have children, you need medical care, in many cases.
I believe that needs are beyond what many of you define as a need. I have no desire to be reduced to barbarism. Needs require food, clean water, shelter, clothing etc. To get those things you need infrastructure to support clean water and the disposal of waste, transport of food, medicine and clothing, you need work to provide the ability to attain the necessities, you need builders, you need farmers, you need the infrastructure to support farming....the list of needs goes far, far beyond shelter, food and water; unless you do want to return to barbarism.
In much of this country there is no living without the infrastructure to bring you water....try living in most of Texas, Arizona, New Mexico, Nevada, California, or Utah without public water sources...just saying.....
I whole heartedly agree!
I disagree with many of you....
Yes, basic needs for survival are food, shelter, water, for basic survival. However, the world has changed vastly since the Great Depression. In 1930, the US was almost evenly divided between rural and urban (45% to 55%), now only about 20% of the population lives in a rural area. Every major city in the US had a good, cheap, public transportation system in the 1930s, this is not true today. What needs are now versus what needs were then are different.
Most people live far from land and can't grow or hunt their own food, so access to food supplies is necessary. Transportation is an absolute necessity, to food supplies and for food supplies. This means roads and railroads are not a want but a need. An individual vehicle may or may not be a want. If it is required for you to do your job, or get to your job, it is not a want. I feel that a job or source of income is a necessity. If you have no source of money, then you can't obtain the things you need to live...food, shelter, water, clothing. Good luck getting someone to provide water to you if you don't pay them. Ditto with food. So stores, and jobs are needs, not wants. I think medical care is a need also. If you have cancer, diabetes, any chronic illness, or even have or want to have children then you need medical care. Even if you don't want to have children, you need medical care, in many cases.
I believe that needs are beyond what many of you define as a need. I have no desire to be reduced to barbarism. Needs require food, clean water, shelter, clothing etc. To get those things you need infrastructure to support clean water and the disposal of waste, transport of food, medicine and clothing, you need work to provide the ability to attain the necessities, you need builders, you need farmers, you need the infrastructure to support farming....the list of needs goes far, far beyond shelter, food and water; unless you do want to return to barbarism.
In much of this country there is no living without the infrastructure to bring you water....try living in most of Texas, Arizona, New Mexico, Nevada, California, or Utah without public water sources...just saying.....
I whole heartedly agree!
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I whole heartedly agree!
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The population, employers, mass transportation were much different than we do today and I do agree with the percentage of rural and urban. Farmers are losing their lands and livehood while the corporations are reaping the benefits. Well said, my dear mom's folly, well said!
I whole heartedly agree!
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A nephew of mine asked us in the family discussion.
"What is a need or want of cell phones? You dont see any landline phone booths anymore on highways, gas stations (not all of them have it) and emergencies?"
Where else can you call for help?
"What is a need or want of cell phones? You dont see any landline phone booths anymore on highways, gas stations (not all of them have it) and emergencies?"
Where else can you call for help?
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Food,water,shelter,and clothing.In the least some wood to burn. I would really miss indoor plumbing,but I know that we could do without it.Granny had an outhouse,and a stove that used wood. I remember for the tub there was a huge tank next to it,and we would make a fire in the bottom area to heat water up.
Was talking with dd the other day about guns and bow/arrow. Would want both for hunting/defense since eventually the bullets are used up.
My mom refuses to get a cell for emergencies.Recently she broke down on the highway with dd.Many people either stopped or called police to let them know.One guy whose house backed up to the highway saw them from his window,and he came and fixed the issue(dragging muffler) just as a state trooper pulled up. I am glad it all worked out ok,but I still wish she would just have a cell handy. Not everyone that stops has good intentions.
Was talking with dd the other day about guns and bow/arrow. Would want both for hunting/defense since eventually the bullets are used up.
My mom refuses to get a cell for emergencies.Recently she broke down on the highway with dd.Many people either stopped or called police to let them know.One guy whose house backed up to the highway saw them from his window,and he came and fixed the issue(dragging muffler) just as a state trooper pulled up. I am glad it all worked out ok,but I still wish she would just have a cell handy. Not everyone that stops has good intentions.
Mattema, lucky your mother was in good hands rather than a sicko on the highways that would steal money or rape or worse! Glad she made it home!
mom'sfolly :
don't look Ethel.....
Bringing back the memories. Anyone streak back then?
don't look Ethel.....
Bringing back the memories. Anyone streak back then?
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Bringing back the memories. Anyone streak back then?
Yep.........still do sometimes........just for the sheer joy of it!
Bringing back the memories. Anyone streak back then?
Yep.........still do sometimes........just for the sheer joy of it!
Showing my age there, but I couldn't resist. I saw plenty of streakers (why are they all puny, pale and hairy?) but never participated.
I want slow eye-candy, not fast, pale, puny and hairy!!!!!!!
I want slow eye-candy, not fast, pale, puny and hairy!!!!!!!
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