What kind of worms are these?

[dawg53]

Remember what I said about withholding feed for 24 hours prior to worming them? It would be best to keep them in their run/pen and provide water only. If you let them free range they will eat grass, bugs etc...it would be defeating the purpose of worming because it would also be feeding the worms nutrients keeping them strong. Withholding anything to be eaten weakens worms. Chickens can handle not eating anything for 24-48 hours.

 

[5770amber]

Remember what I said about withholding feed for 24 hours prior to worming them? It would be best to keep them in their run/pen and provide water only. If you let them free range they will eat grass, bugs etc...it would be defeating the purpose of worming because it would also be feeding the worms nutrients keeping them strong. Withholding anything to be eaten weakens worms. Chickens can handle not eating anything for 24-48 hours.

Yes! I just meant letting the free range on days 1&2 before having to hold food for 24hrs. I didn't know if that spread the worm eggs and make it easier to pick back up? Thank you for all the info! I need it, it's all new to us.

 

[islafarm]

From what I've read on tapeworm it can take 2 to 6 weeks for an adult to develop in your chicken to the point that segments appear in their poop, so they may have come infected. If your using the horse wormer, the praziquantel medication it contains is also used for people- and obviously the dose for a chicken is far les. That might affect what you do with the eggs (we ate them).

Horrible things tapeworm! Good luck!

 

[5770amber]

From what I've read on tapeworm it can take 2 to 6 weeks for an adult to develop in your chicken to the point that segments appear in their poop, so they may have come infected. If your using the horse wormer, the praziquantel medication it contains is also used for people- and obviously the dose for a chicken is far les. That might affect what you do with the eggs (we ate them).

Horrible things tapeworm! Good luck!

I bet my husband would eat them too. From what I gathered if a human were to get worms eating the eggs can cause a resistance to the wormer since the dose in the eggs are so low. So it would be a problem if that human had to be treated for worms (From what I read). I won't eat them bc I'm breastfeeding and there is always a possibility for pregnancy. I don't mind throwing out eggs, we only get 4-7 a day, to better our girls but hubby on the hand..... Lol. I'll look into that wormer. What about flubenvet? There is no egg withdrawal period for that wormer but I don't know what it all work on?

 

[islafarm]

The praziquantel works by "causing severe spasms and paralysis of the worms' muscles" plus a change in their 'skin' which allows the intestinal fluids to destroy it, so it's either dissolved or flushed or both. In what I saw in my chooks, they must have been dissolved. It doesn't sound like it would stay in your system. Another website said that the half life of the medication was 2 days, on the packet it says it's a one off treatment and will have to be reapplied for each infestation.
If you had a tapeworm and you ate the medicated egg I don't think the worm would develop a resistance, think it just wouldn't work. All theoretical anyway

praziquantel is contradicted for breastfeeding!
There's a great website for parasite info, including drugs and natural treatments, looked at it for flubenvet,looks good :

www.parasitipedia.net

 

[dawg53]

Flubenvet is a good wormer, but wont treat tapeworms.

 

[5770amber]

The praziquantel works by "causing severe spasms and paralysis of the worms' muscles" plus a change in their 'skin' which allows the intestinal fluids to destroy it, so it's either dissolved or flushed or both. In what I saw in my chooks, they must have been dissolved. It doesn't sound like it would stay in your system. Another website said that the half life of the medication was 2 days, on the packet it says it's a one off treatment and will have to be reapplied for each infestation.
If you had a tapeworm and you ate the medicated egg I don't think the worm would develop a resistance, think it just wouldn't work. All theoretical anyway

praziquantel is contradicted for breastfeeding!
There's a great website for parasite info, including drugs and natural treatments, looked at it for flubenvet,looks good :

www.parasitipedia.net

Great info thanks! I'm going to clean the pen today and wondering if I can spray it down or should I use a bleach solution? If I let them free range while I clean will that make it harder to get rid of the worm ( them pooping all over the yard) sorry I'm so ignorant about this.

 

[dawg53]

Treating the soil is ineffective and a waste of time unless you want to use a rototiller and till the soil using lime...and I dont recommend doing that. Insects are the host for tapeworm infections.

 

[islafarm]

It's quite fascinating really

the segments in the poop contain hundreds of eggs, the segments move around basically to attract insects which will eat them. Eggs hatch and then migrate through the intestinal wall into the body 'cavity'. When the chicken eats the insect they become re-infected.
Removing fresh poop to where it can't be eaten by insects is your best bet. Keeping the coop / run dry as possible also helps - segments need moisture.
Cleaning is always nice, but won't necessarily change the situation.
I've read that tapeworms aren't a serious or such a common problem, but once you have them it sure feels serious

The good news is that people dogs cats don't share the same tapeworms.
Good luck!

 

[5770amber]

I have been unsuccessful in finding flubenvet in the US. It looks like it's only in the UK? Do you know if there is another name for it here? And what do you think about verm-x? Should I start doing a regular worming after this?