What predator is eating my predator?

Discussion in 'Predators and Pests' started by DuckieG, Jan 19, 2010.

  1. DuckieG

    DuckieG In the Brooder

    Jun 11, 2009
    Traphill, NC
    We have had rat problems since last summer when I found the black snake (5 ft plus, measured) that was a resident of our horse barn trying to eat a huge duckling that he never was going to get down. [​IMG] I was really angry and he met the shotgun. Now we have burrowing rats like crazy and I can't catch them--live trap, bucket trap, plain ol' rat trap--nothing. I go out to the shed to change out the heated tub of duckie water and they are standing on the edge, sipping away, waving "hi" to me--I couldn't take it anymore. I put out a bait station as a last resort last night; since rats are neophobic, they will not touch it for at least a week. These are smart rats. BUT I went out this morning and found a rat, or the remains anyway. The head was gone and every bit of flesh except for the skin and the pelvic bone and the tail. It was almost surgical. I am not frightened of rats and actually used to have pet rats; whatever did this to the rat is very creepy. Any ideas? My place is surrounded on 3 sides by a largish creek in the foothills of NC. Note: NO bait had been eaten last night; there was blood everywhere on the hay pallet near the body so I suspect that the rat had fought back and injured the killer. This was an enormous male rat who had been raised on Layena, LOL.

  2. smarsh

    smarsh Songster

    Aug 19, 2009
    lexington, KY
    Barn owl?
  3. Ibicella

    Ibicella Songster

    Nov 13, 2009
    Everett, WA
    I'm guessing a cat. I've had more than my fair share of headless trophies brought to me!
  4. AHappychick

    AHappychick Wanna-be Farmer

    Dec 16, 2008
    wow what would be big enough to kill a rat but not take it away with it?

    As for the rat problem maybe you could get some barn cats, maybe rescue a few from the shelter?
  5. Bear Foot Farm

    Bear Foot Farm Crowing

    Mar 31, 2008
    Grifton NC
    Owls mostly swallow rats whole.
    I'd think it was a cat
  6. PhilErvin

    PhilErvin Songster

    Sep 11, 2009
    Yucaipa, CA
    Sounds like a cat to me too. I have three cats that hang around my property. I don't know where they belong but I don't ask. I don't feed them but I think they drink from my pond when my dog is not looking. I have no rats or mice. [​IMG]
  7. silkydragon

    silkydragon Songster

    Nov 1, 2009
    ohio valley
    animal planets most extreme says common house cat is the most vicious killer in the world because it just sits on the couch and is fed all day it has the energy they just kill for fun and will play with the kill a lot 1st

  8. DuckieG

    DuckieG In the Brooder

    Jun 11, 2009
    Traphill, NC
    If it was a cat, it had a scalpel. I would post a pic, but it is pretty alarming. EVERYTHING other than the feet, pelt, tail and pelvic bone was removed. I have a cat prejudice--I have had too many barn cats that pee all over my tack and hay and eat like pigs while the mice take over. I have rat terriers but I can't allow them to run loose; my mules are hyper-vigilant to canines due to the coyotes in the area. The mice are less wary of the terriers when I bring them to the barn; the rats just hunker down until we go back up to the house and then they start partying again.
  9. Dar

    Dar Crowing

    Jul 31, 2008
    what about a fisher cat or some kind of weasel? (I am just throwing our guesses)
  10. FaereChicken

    FaereChicken Songster

    Jan 1, 2009
    N. Central Maryland
    Quote:Yeah, they're good at that. I've had presented on the porch (back when we had outdoor cats): feet only, a large colon, and head only. All separate occasions.

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