Whats wrong with his comb please?

[BokBokBeginner]

Normal.. yes. Not every chick that hatches will be top quality, EVEN when parent stock is chosen for correct phenotype (looks/physical) that won't account for genotype (hidden/genes).

Correct.. no.. not according to the standard of perfection that I am familiar with in the US.. does the Australian standard call for a pea comb also? Or which standard of perfection are you using? Comb seems like one of those things that translates across all countries' standards...

Looks like it may have had some straight comb popping out.. this CAN happen in pure bred birds.. if one or both are hiding the less dominant gene.. in this case straight comb MAYBE.. when bred together the straight comb may pop out up to 50% of the offspring perhaps..

What I see LOOKS like a straight comb with side sprigs *more* than it looks like a pea comb to ME.. this is just my assessment though, according to what little I do understand about combs and genetics.

Is he rump-less?

Looks like not homozygous for tufting, as far as I can SEE.. meaning he is only carrying a single copy of that lethal gene.. Just discussion and practicing my observational/detective skills and not a comment on quality.. breeding the more rare and difficult genetics.. like Araucana.. present many unique challenges one may never know unless faced themselves.

In other words.. I would breed from him if I had no other option.. knowing that I WILL be selecting a better sire from future generations.. as is the constant case for flocks that breed.. your improving or diminishing in quality.. things never stay the same. So for breeding ALL breeding stock are temporary.. when their time comes.. they find new home or grace freezer camp.

Thank you so much for that advice. I honestly just wanted to create a colourful egg basket and from what I think I know is that the pea comb is needed for green/blue eggs. I have a barred rock x araucana pullet and a lavender araucana pullet I wanted to put with him along with pure black australorp, blue laced wyendotte, an isa brown and rhode island red all pullets. All in hope for different coloured eggs

 

[BokBokBeginner]

Normal.. yes. Not every chick that hatches will be top quality, EVEN when parent stock is chosen for correct phenotype (looks/physical) that won't account for genotype (hidden/genes).

Correct.. no.. not according to the standard of perfection that I am familiar with in the US.. does the Australian standard call for a pea comb also? Or which standard of perfection are you using? Comb seems like one of those things that translates across all countries' standards...

Looks like it may have had some straight comb popping out.. this CAN happen in pure bred birds.. if one or both are hiding the less dominant gene.. in this case straight comb MAYBE.. when bred together the straight comb may pop out up to 50% of the offspring perhaps..

What I see LOOKS like a straight comb with side sprigs *more* than it looks like a pea comb to ME.. this is just my assessment though, according to what little I do understand about combs and genetics.

Is he rump-less?

Looks like not homozygous for tufting, as far as I can SEE.. meaning he is only carrying a single copy of that lethal gene.. Just discussion and practicing my observational/detective skills and not a comment on quality.. breeding the more rare and difficult genetics.. like Araucana.. present many unique challenges one may never know unless faced themselves.

In other words.. I would breed from him if I had no other option.. knowing that I WILL be selecting a better sire from future generations.. as is the constant case for flocks that breed.. your improving or diminishing in quality.. things never stay the same. So for breeding ALL breeding stock are temporary.. when their time comes.. they find new home or grace freezer camp.

Also no he is not rumpless either so I'm guessing he is no good for assuming his daughters will %100 lay coloured eggs

 

[BokBokBeginner]

The woman I puchased them from said pure bred so I'm a little upset that Max doesn't fit the standard
This is Molly my female

 

[sourland]

Easter egger. Very washed out easter egger. Arucauna are tail less, Ameracauna have tails, both have pea combs.

Australian Araucana have a different standard than US birds, and are generally tailed. I don't think the comb is quite right even for the Australian standard, but would ask the person who bred the birds.

 

[BokBokBeginner]

Australian Araucana have a different standard than US birds, and are generally tailed. I don't think the comb is quite right even for the Australian standard, but would ask the person who bred the birds.

Ok thank you I wish I could but she was at a market

 

[EggSighted4Life]

Also no he is not rumpless either so I'm guessing he is no good for assuming his daughters will %100 lay coloured eggs

There are plenty of straight combed birds that lay blue or green eggs.. the these days and pea comb is not as far as I know truly part of the equation.. examples are crested cream Legbars and Silverrudd's blues.. But straight comb is absence of another comb gene..

I am clueless about which standard you might be breeding to.. but for cross bred beautiful colored egg layers.. he MIGHT be contributing the blue gene.. you might be able to do test mating and see what offspring produce.. it's just that's extremely time consuming waiting for generations to mature.. But if he's a good guy and otherwise good to the ladies.. You could breed to ANY country standard regardless of which country your in.. just they might not be "show able" at those "sanctioned" shows.. But my question about rumpless was JUST curiosity since it wasn't showing in pics and the rumpless ones are a lot more rare.. just curiosity.. love of birds and details and NOT a statement about actual breeding quality!

Looks like only the US requires rumpless according to this link..

http://www.poultryhub.org/species/fancy-chicken-breeds/araucana/

This link states Ausie's only recognize them WITH a tail..

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Araucana

Just another link about the standards for review..

http://www.openpoultrystandards.com/Araucana

This one looks like an interesting and possibly informative site..

http://www.araucana.net/shows-and-showing/standard-guidelines/

I would work with ya got.. cross him to your lav pullet and KEEP one of the LAV male offspring.. to *help* guarantee you blue egg gene influence in future generations!

They're gorgeous birds ya got there.

 

[BokBokBeginner]

Wow thank you so very much I do love them I have a beautiful flock who most of will die of old age with me luckily I have enough room so I can introduce new layers each year
I'm excited for the links you sent me thanks again I'm off to read them now.
I am going to do what you said though with molly (my lavender Pullet) and when she starts laying I will find a replacement in her babies for max (my lavender cockeral)
Thank you again for all the help I truly appreciate it

 

[NatJ]

I honestly just wanted to create a colourful egg basket and from what I think I know is that the pea comb is needed for green/blue eggs.

If you are dealing with chickens that have Araucana ancestors, that is mostly true. But it isn't that way for all breeds of chickens.

The gene for blue or not-blue eggs is closely linked to the gene for pea or not-pea comb, so a mixed-breed chicken tends to inherit them together.

But they can be linked in any combination:
Araucana is pea comb, blue eggs
Brahma is pea comb, not-blue eggs
Orpington is not-pea comb, not-blue eggs
Cream Legbar is not-pea comb, blue eggs

 

[BokBokBeginner]

If you are dealing with chickens that have Araucana ancestors, that is mostly true. But it isn't that way for all breeds of chickens.

The gene for blue or not-blue eggs is closely linked to the gene for pea or not-pea comb, so a mixed-breed chicken tends to inherit them together.

But they can be linked in any combination:
Araucana is pea comb, blue eggs
Brahma is pea comb, not-blue eggs
Orpington is not-pea comb, not-blue eggs
Cream Legbar is not-pea comb, blue eggs

Ok so when I hatch eggs from Max (lavender araucana) over any of my girls they will be easter eggers is that right? And they will inherit pea combs?

 

[NatJ]

I honestly just wanted to create a colourful egg basket ...I have a barred rock x araucana pullet and a lavender araucana pullet I wanted to put with him along with pure black australorp, blue laced wyendotte, an isa brown and rhode island red all pullets. All in hope for different coloured eggs

Ok so when I hatch eggs from Max (lavender araucana) over any of my girls they will be easter eggers is that right? And they will inherit pea combs?

I am assuming Max has one pea comb/blue egg gene combo, and one not-pea/not-blue.

That would give you:

Crossed to your Araucana, Easter Eggers, some of them with pea comb and some with combs like Max (but all laying blue eggs or possibly green eggs).

Crossed to your brown-egg layers, you will probably get about half Easter Eggers, with combs like Max and laying blue or green eggs, and about half with single comb who just lay brown eggs. The ones that lay brown eggs I would probably call mixed-breeds but not Easter Eggers. (Comb exception: with a Wyandotte mother, rose comb instead of single comb, or cushion comb instead of comb like Max.)

With your Araucana-cross pullet, probably half Easter Eggers with combs like Max, a quarter Easter Eggers with proper pea combs, and a quarter with single combs that lay brown or white eggs.

If you want a variety of shades of eggs, Max sounds like a reasonable choice.
He might even be a better choice than a pure Ameraucana, if you want a mix of browns as well as blues & greens.

If you want specifically blue or green eggs, he's less good, but still better than a pure not-blue-egg rooster.

And if you cross him to your Ameraucana and keep a son with a proper pea comb, that son is likely to be pure for the blue egg gene, so as good as a pure Ameraucana for purposes of breeding colored eggs.