What's wrong with their feathers?

[savingdogs]

I'm glad I'm subscribed to this one!

 

[Germaine_11.20]

SteveH, I did wonder when I saw the comb way back then. It does look like a walnut comb to me. Any others think so?

 

[Lady_Cluck]

 

[Germaine_11.20]

I have eggs incubating. I don't care about the lineage, they are absolutely cool chickens.

The way I look at it is that with time, they will be pure soft feathered Ameracaunas. Why shouldn't they be considered that?

Coronation Sussex--Lavender Orpingtons---and the list goes on. They weren't just born that way, someone had to CROSS something with them to get them where they are today.

They aren't called Cochin/Sussex or Ameracauna/Orpingtons Nope so why can't the same be said with enough breeding that these are Ameracaunas, plain and simple?

 

[SteveH]

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I have nothing at stake nor any reason to be for against any name . I do understand that they can never be Ameraucanas because their feathers are wrong for that breed even if the comb and body type were refined to fit the Ameraucana SOP . I don't know if the Ameraucana breeders would object to them being called [ fill in the blank ] Ameraucanas but realize that their breed is basicly barely past its infancy compared to Sussex or Orpingtons . They struggled long and hard on the the name , SOP , and accepted varieties only to have to deal with other blue egg layers being incorrectly called their chosen name . If these birds are successsfully developed and the breeders involved in developing them go through these struggles , I can only hope that they don't have to contend with people selling F2 Silkie/Ameraucanas under the same name LOL .

 

[Germaine_11.20]

Good Point. I hadn't thought about the SOP--Duh! Hmmmm The APA allows (sometimes) different colors to be added to a breed, I wonder if they would consider different feathers if everything else fit the bill?

 

[Jubaby]

I really like the Serendipity name. It's a great idea! Have to definitely think about that one a little more.

 

[averytds]

Based off the history on the ABC, they faced a lot of prejudice. I would think having gone through that themselves they'd be less inclined to do the same to others. On the other hand, we're all human, so who knows.

That being said, I think separate breed is for the best. Why potentially get into the mess if you don't have to.

Serendipity is cute. One of my DDs thinks they look like Dalmations.

 

[Jubaby]

Just wanted to update everyone on what's going on right now. So far I have shipped eggs to seven different people, and have promised one more person eggs next week - eight people total. Since the hatches aren't going as well as I'd hoped, I don't want to continue shipping eggs out that aren't hatching well. I'm going to wait a few more weeks and see how the final hatches turn out.

I may have to just hatch eggs here and sell and ship live chickens. I have not shipped chickens before and am looking into how to do this. I live in a rural area and will probably have to travel to a larger PO hub to ship off the chickens.

I know there are many who want eggs, but I just don't want to be ripping people off, so give me a little time to work this all out.

Thanks,
Julie

 

[pips&peeps]

That is very commendable Julie!

I wanted to let you know that I am trying to find a DNA testing facility that we can send either feather samples to or blood to test for the silkie gene or the fray gene. I have talked to another BYC'r that will go in with me to pay for the test.

But locating somewhere to do testing looks like it will be difficult. I think I will now start trying some colleges and universities that have poultry science departments. Maybe we can find one that will be very interested in your birds and do the testing for free.

If these birds have the silkie gene then that is great, and I would promote furthering your breeding plan. But, if it is fray, I personally would not continue. It would be like breeding birds for crossed beak or curled toes.

I'll let you know if I find out anything.