when can you tell if a turkey is a girl or boy?

My Turkeys are about 9-10 weeks old now. I'm new to turkeys. And I'm absolutely in love. I'm also excited to know what I have. I know the big one is a tom, I have heard him gobble. Not sure with the smaller one. Though I have heard it make like a trilling noise, if that's how you want to describe it.
 

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So males droppings are J and L shape, female - spherical.. ? I was not able to find that post from Celie on sexing turkeys... something to do with holding them on their backs and looking if they will fold their feet? I am going to test this now on my chicken whose gender I know for sure :)
Female droppings are not necessarily spherical so much as they are dropped in a pile.

@Celie 's post on sexing pooults.

https://www.backyardchickens.com/threads/turkeys-for-2013.725829/page-276#post-11833820

Be sure to read her second post for clarification.

https://www.backyardchickens.com/threads/turkeys-for-2013.725829/page-276#post-11836985
 
I read a turkey raising book that said you can tell by looking at their eyes. The hens look nice and toms look mean-compared to one another. They have to be a few days old to notice a difference. It says if you don't see a difference you may be holding two of the same gender.
I got 3 bourbon reds with the hopes of 1 tom and 2 hens....we'll see how selections turn out!
How did it turn out?
 

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