When did you stop liking certain celeberties?

[mom'sfolly]

Utter nonsense!!!!!

 

[Ferrret]

Quote:
Men can get breast cancer, and the men around here walk around with these save the boobies cancer support braclets on.

Not only can men get breast cancer, they often cannot get financial aid to help treat it if they have no insurance.
http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/44065...patient-denied-coverage-hes-man/#.TmKvs2pv2uI

I don't follow celebrities much, I'll get bits of trivia here and there on actors or singers I like but I don't know their every personal life detail.
I usually stop liking them if they become arrogant or place themselves on a pedestal to be idolized. I don't care how much money you make, or how talented you seem to be, I'm not bowing down like a servant to you.
Occasionally some off comments, like the one above about breast cancer, will make me like them less.

 

[Rusty Hills Farm]

I stopped liking Mel Gibson with his first antisemitic blowout. I stopped liking Clint Eastwood when I discovered how much scorn he felt for the fans of his Marine Corps movie, Heartbreak Ridge. In an interview he admitted he was mocking the Corps' mentality with that movie. As a Marine, I was deeply offended even if it WAS a dumb movie.


Rusty

 

[gritsar]

I'd be hard pressed to think of a celebrity I do like, nor can I think of any I hate. I don't think there's anything more special about them than a surgeon with a great skill to save lives or a teacher that has skill to entice children to want to learn. They can act, big deal.

They are just people and have no right to be put on a pedestal anymore than the person sitting next to you in church or ahead of you in the checkout line. Most of us have talents that we make use of without getting paid a gazillion dollars an hour to do it.

Okay I really can't stand Roseanne Barr, but that woman is extreme. If she lived in my neighbor I'd move. If she attended the same church I did, I'd become an atheist.

 

[welsummerchicks]

I think when a person has cancer, that's when I cut them a little slack in discussing the subject, public person or not. If I think what they are saying would interfere with someone else getting diagnosed and treated adequately, I will say so. But in this case, I think that comment is just about venting some frustration.

I imagine she felt very emotional about it, and just like with anyone else who has it/has had it, I consider how intensely they must feel about it, when 'judging' what they say.

In point of fact, I consider it no different if Carly Simon makes a remark, than I would if the lady next to me on the bus or in the gym said it. Carly Simon isn't God. SHe's just another person. If she says something that I don't quite agree with, I am not exactly going to get all mad at her and refuse to listen to her music. She's a singer, not a cancer expert.

My dad once told me that we shouldn't have any research on breast cancer, because 'It's not important enough for research because only women get it, and there are not enough people dying of it for it to deserve any research'.

Perhaps Carly had lunch with my dad that day.

How would you feel if you had cancer and were scared spitless, and someone told you that your death would be unimportant, that women getting a disease makes it unimportant, and your disease doesn't warrant research?

But that isn't the first time (or the last), I've heard someone say that sort of thing - the 'if men got breast cancer' sort of point of view.

And in point of very plain fact, there IS a bias toward what things get the bigger bucks in research. There is a very definite bias, and always has been...there are many different kinds of bias possible. Anyone who thinks that research by Big Pharm and other big bucks interests, is strictly a humanitarian activity, needs to wake up and turn their alarm clock off and stop dreaming. For quite some time, there has been a financial incentive behind research - common conditions for which a medication would have a huge potential market, were and often still are, much hotter than some other health conditions - even if those others caused a lot of fatalities and suffering.

In a way, the ideal disease is the ones that never get cured, and never kill people, and are very common. Those are where the big money is.

What has changed though, is that there just has been such an accumulation of knowledge about DNA and genes over the years, that despite the usual biases, treatment of breast cancer has improved immensely.

And what my dad and others who said things like he said missed, is that there is no predicting what other benefits a given bit of progress will cause. For example, someone invents a better MRI, and all of a sudden, it's as obvious as a thumb hit by a hammer, that mental illness is a disease process that damages the brain, and now we know exactly where and how it damages the brain, and that in turn led to knew knowledge about how to treat it - and some day even a prevention.

And I think the oft-heard 'if men got breast cancer' - is in response to comments like that - an angry response. But a response.

I do think that people like my dad, had no idea that men can get breast cancer.

But let's face it - most of the cases are in women, and even among those who realize men can get breast cancer, it is, fundamentally and correctly, viewed as a disease of women.

In a given year, 40,000 women will die of breast cancer in the US - 400 men will die - 100 times more women. 3/4 of people with breast cancer are women over 50.

 

[EweSheep]

Men DO get breast cancer, and it is so poorly recognized.

I used to love Mel Gibson until that crazy fall out with his new wife/girlfriend with his new daughter.....just sicko! However I still appreciate him being a good actor on some of the movies like Patriot and Braveheart and that slapstick comedy with that black guy.

 

[punk-a-doodle]

I did? Maybe I should stop wallpapering my room with their photos...




But meh, like anyone, if you are overly fake, self-absorbed, insecure in a way where you lash out at others, etc., I'm not exactly going to be inviting you over for a drink, whether you have your own tv show or not.

 

[fuzziebutt]

Quote:
Carly Simon is a moron, men DO get breast cancer.

breastcancer.about.com/od/types/p/male_breast_ca.htm

.22 percent of men's cancer deaths are from breast cancer.

 

[fuzziebutt]

HOWEVER, if the screening for testicullar cancer was like a mammogram, there would be a new test. And men invented shoulder seat belts.

 

[gritsar]

I think it got way off topic with Carly Simon and breast cancer. If she said that it's no worse than that idiot Jon Claude Van Dam once having been quoted as saying "women only want men for their eggs!" Huh????

I don't look to Hollywood for Mensa members.