I see it as once you hatch an egg, it and it's offspring is yours, until it ends and you give it away. Simple as that.
When does a bloodline become "Yours"
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It is nice to say you got your birds from so and so but no one really knows what quality you bought from them pictures sometimes helps. I would say you can call it your strain when several people can look at the birds and say that looks like your birds. Your birds should look like they all came from the same mold(75%) except for the obvious culls which everyone gets.
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Yep.
I would not consider hatching someone else' egg then breeding that offspring as your lines, nor would I consider F2's from such as your lines - Instead, I consider it yours when you actually have your own breeding going with your own sort of "signature" in the flock; A recognition from various and many people that those are your birds, and the offspring someone may buy from yours will look like your breeding.
If someone bought from your flock, and then showed off their birds. . . And the audience said, wow, is that so-and-so's birds? That would be such example.
Course, some people don't have an eye for it, but that's just where reputation comes in. Not everyone can spot the differences visually of a Wyandotte from Paul's Poultry vs Foley's Waterfowl, but at least people know who those breeders are and what their birds are like.
Yep.
I would not consider hatching someone else' egg then breeding that offspring as your lines, nor would I consider F2's from such as your lines - Instead, I consider it yours when you actually have your own breeding going with your own sort of "signature" in the flock; A recognition from various and many people that those are your birds, and the offspring someone may buy from yours will look like your breeding.
If someone bought from your flock, and then showed off their birds. . . And the audience said, wow, is that so-and-so's birds? That would be such example.
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Yep.
I would not consider hatching someone else' egg then breeding that offspring as your lines, nor would I consider F2's from such as your lines - Instead, I consider it yours when you actually have your own breeding going with your own sort of "signature" in the flock; A recognition from various and many people that those are your birds, and the offspring someone may buy from yours will look like your breeding.
If someone bought from your flock, and then showed off their birds. . . And the audience said, wow, is that so-and-so's birds? That would be such example.
Course, some people don't have an eye for it, but that's just where reputation comes in. Not everyone can spot the differences visually of a Wyandotte from Paul's Poultry vs Foley's Waterfowl, but at least people know who those breeders are and what their birds are like.
Exactly!
Yep.
I would not consider hatching someone else' egg then breeding that offspring as your lines, nor would I consider F2's from such as your lines - Instead, I consider it yours when you actually have your own breeding going with your own sort of "signature" in the flock; A recognition from various and many people that those are your birds, and the offspring someone may buy from yours will look like your breeding.
If someone bought from your flock, and then showed off their birds. . . And the audience said, wow, is that so-and-so's birds? That would be such example.
Exactly!
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Yep.
I would not consider hatching someone else' egg then breeding that offspring as your lines, nor would I consider F2's from such as your lines - Instead, I consider it yours when you actually have your own breeding going with your own sort of "signature" in the flock; A recognition from various and many people that those are your birds, and the offspring someone may buy from yours will look like your breeding.
If someone bought from your flock, and then showed off their birds. . . And the audience said, wow, is that so-and-so's birds? That would be such example.
Course, some people don't have an eye for it, but that's just where reputation comes in. Not everyone can spot the differences visually of a Wyandotte from Paul's Poultry vs Foley's Waterfowl, but at least people know who those breeders are and what their birds are like.
Thats a good point I can go out into my BBS pen and point out all the birds from the different breeders. They are all nice but they look different definatley didn't think about that.
Yep.
I would not consider hatching someone else' egg then breeding that offspring as your lines, nor would I consider F2's from such as your lines - Instead, I consider it yours when you actually have your own breeding going with your own sort of "signature" in the flock; A recognition from various and many people that those are your birds, and the offspring someone may buy from yours will look like your breeding.
If someone bought from your flock, and then showed off their birds. . . And the audience said, wow, is that so-and-so's birds? That would be such example.
Thats a good point I can go out into my BBS pen and point out all the birds from the different breeders. They are all nice but they look different definatley didn't think about that.
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I agree with this, but a whole lot depends upon the context. Crediting the breeders from whom you have birds is very different than taking credit for their work or labeling them with your work (which may or may not be a compliment). Semantics is everything, and a lot of times you need to use a lot of words (sentences instead of phrases, or paragraphs instead of sentences) to make sure your are providing truth in advertising.
At a recent show, the breeder/exhibitor of the champion featherleg said "she is out of an X-breeder hen bred to a Y-breeder cock." He was clearly giving credit to the breeders from whom he purchased the parents, while taking credit for the resulting offspring, but not to the extent of calling it his own line.
I agree with this, but a whole lot depends upon the context. Crediting the breeders from whom you have birds is very different than taking credit for their work or labeling them with your work (which may or may not be a compliment). Semantics is everything, and a lot of times you need to use a lot of words (sentences instead of phrases, or paragraphs instead of sentences) to make sure your are providing truth in advertising.
At a recent show, the breeder/exhibitor of the champion featherleg said "she is out of an X-breeder hen bred to a Y-breeder cock." He was clearly giving credit to the breeders from whom he purchased the parents, while taking credit for the resulting offspring, but not to the extent of calling it his own line.
So my line is mine because it is removed from the breeder 10 years???
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To my opinion. . . . Not unless you prove that you've got a personal goal in your line. Otherwise, it is the same as anyone else who does such.
But, that's my opinion.
2x Alot of the serious breeders would create a "niche" to make their birds stand out better than others. Look at Hattrick Silkes versus Ideal Hatchery or Mr Joe Silky, if you can tell Hattrick from another Silkie that does not have the "poodle" look, then you have done your job. Each breeder have their own goal in what they think it "fits" their goals in their birds.
To my opinion. . . . Not unless you prove that you've got a personal goal in your line. Otherwise, it is the same as anyone else who does such.
But, that's my opinion.
2x Alot of the serious breeders would create a "niche" to make their birds stand out better than others. Look at Hattrick Silkes versus Ideal Hatchery or Mr Joe Silky, if you can tell Hattrick from another Silkie that does not have the "poodle" look, then you have done your job. Each breeder have their own goal in what they think it "fits" their goals in their birds.
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To my opinion. . . . Not unless you prove that you've got a personal goal in your line. Otherwise, it is the same as anyone else who does such.
But, that's my opinion.
This conversation is interesting to me. I have often wondered the same thing.
To my opinion. . . . Not unless you prove that you've got a personal goal in your line. Otherwise, it is the same as anyone else who does such.
But, that's my opinion.
This conversation is interesting to me. I have often wondered the same thing.
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