White eye genetics

[AB03Sam]

I also have some WE genetic questions. I had a pen with a white peacock, a India blue hen, a India blue hen split to something (white flights), and two yearling India blue pied hens( one of which laid) Six of the resulting chicks are India blue split white, but they appear WE to me. I want others opinions though as I don’t think I’ve seen a WE in person before. Please excuse the dirty barn. It’s on the to do list and it’s been too cold (-47c with the wind chill) here to keep opening the door to take out the dirty shavings.

Not only do these birds have the white spots on them, but they also have a silver or frosted colour to them.

Next question. My cameo black shoulder peacock now has what appear to be white eyes does this mean he is split WE?

 

[Dany12]

These WE are linked to the Silver pied pattern!
A pattern they never talk about ... is ... dark silver pied.
Whenever the two terms SP appear... WE is implied.
'Frosted color' is also called silvering!
For me, this spotted on young peacocks will disappear at the next moult. Especially on the female!
The male may give a very beautiful bird with a WE pattern.

The WE pattern of your Cameo BS is the old WE pattern ... of the last century!

 

[KsKingBee]

In the past I have used the term Dark Silver Pied but genetically it is not correct. They are split to Silver Pied. There is a lot of unknowns in Silver Pied and White Eye and how it works. As an example there are at least three different types of WE, the ugly WE that is derived from SP, (which has two copies of WE), is just a smattering of white in the eye while the 'good' WE is a nice round full circle. WE is not always passed on to the offspring even from a full WE bird and that is the mystery. Breed those two hens to a White cock for your best results, you should get White, Silver Pied, Pied and dark Pieds and WE. Here is a pic of two cocks that are single gene WE split Silver Pied.

 

[AB03Sam]

In the past I have used the term Dark Silver Pied but genetically it is not correct. They are split to Silver Pied. There is a lot of unknowns in Silver Pied and White Eye and how it works. As an example there are at least three different types of WE, the ugly WE that is derived from SP, (which has two copies of WE), is just a smattering of white in the eye while the 'good' WE is a nice round full circle. WE is not always passed on to the offspring even from a full WE bird and that is the mystery. Breed those two hens to a White cock for your best results, you should get White, Silver Pied, Pied and dark Pieds and WE. Here is a pic of two cocks that are single gene WE split Silver Pied.View attachment 2527083

So is the correct term for the ones I have WE
Split white?

 

[KsKingBee]

So is the correct term for the ones I have WE
Split white?

My opinion is they are IB split Silver Pied and as such they will also be WE.

 

[ackie]

sooo my peacocks lowkey kinda tried to stop a hawk from killing a chicken today
they didnt succeed but it was still heartwarming

 

[AB03Sam]

My opinion is they are IB split Silver Pied and as such they will also be WE.

Ok thanks. If you breed IB split silver pied to IB split silver pied what will the offspring be?

 

[KsKingBee]

Ok thanks. If you breed IB split silver pied to IB split silver pied what will the offspring be?

"As with breeding any pied pattern of peafowl the ratio is 1-2-1. When breeding Silver Pied to Silver Pied you get an average of 25% white, 50 % Silver Pied, 25% Dark Pied “White-Eyed”.

 

[KsKingBee]

Oh, SPLIT Silver Pied. Half of what is stated above and the remainder will be splits.

 

[KsKingBee]

A person needs to understand punett squares but I think you would get about 12% White, 12% split White, 25% SP, 25% split SP, 12% WE, and12% Dark Pied. And the Split Pied and Split White will be identical so you would have to test breed to find out which they are. The split SP will look like the two cocks I posted above. Dark Pied can, but don't have to, have white on them or could look like a split to White or split to Pied. The difference between a Dark Pied and Split Pied is a Dark Pied carries two Pied genes and a split Pied only has one Pied gene. A true Pied has one Pied and one White gene.