Who here raises Buff and White Africans?

[ultasol]

Speaking of grouchy....... grouchherp.

If buff is not recognized, it is not supposed to go higher than BV. This is a rule. Unrecognized varieties cannot place BB. I show an unrecognized variety in another breed, so am pretty familiar with this

But back to the main topic- I've seen some nice ones. Rick and Donna Hare- don't know if they ever showed them, but had (or have, not sure if they still have their pair) a very nice pair of buff africans.

 

[arherp]

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Could you call the Secretary of the APA and correct this issue then? I mean, it's not like he's been around long enough to know anything about the APA...


Do you show Africans?

 

[Rosecomb-Ryan]

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Thank you ultasol... I talked to two VERY well known Judges whom are also part of the APA and a variety that isnt in the standard that would win anything more would not be eligible for any APA points, So a judge would therefore not pick say a Buff over a Brown... One of my best friends raises Brown Africans and has the best around here if not in the country.

 

[ultasol]

No,. I don't show africans but I do have other varieties of heavy class geese.

I also have spoken with a couple of well respected waterfowl judges regarding accepted vs non-accepted varieties of geese... but not specifically the non-accepted buff africans as I am not interested in them specifically. My waterfowl fix of choice is Dewlap Toulouse in Gray (accepted) and buff.

But, I'm sorry, I should defer to the all knowing herp.

. Oh, and give me the secretary's number and I will gladly call and discuss this with him this weekend. After all, it does impact some of the varieties I show.

After all, I would hate to say the secretary is wrong, and I would hate to say the judges I have spoken with are wrong, without having contact with all parties. I haven't spoken with the secretary, yet.

 

[arherp]

I am not saying I am right and that is that, I am saying just do your research, make a few calls, and report back and we can "compare notes" - haha.

The judges number is on the APA website - if you show, woudlnt you kow that?

 

[ultasol]

I am an APA member. This doesn't mean I keep track of what is posted on the website. Other than getting the standard and retaining membership, I haven't had too much to do with the APA website.

I will see about calling him this weekend. I will also send out a couple emails and see what the consensus is.

 

[arherp]

Ok, I look forward to hearing yoru findings.

Now, even if non-recognized colors cant be show, the whites are recognized - SO, does anyone raise the whites and have you done well in the shows?

Also, like I have said previously, any level of winning is cool to talk about, so if you have shown your buffs don't be afraid of grouchdragon, and talk about them!

 

[arherp]

Just wanting to see if any of you have a reference to a different viewpoint on how far Buffs can go in the shows?

 

[Rosecomb-Ryan]

I talked with Jim Sallee and he said all they can get is Best of Variety...

 

[arherp]

Again, a judge cannot determine that.. it is in the hands of the show sponsor/promoter. The president and secretary would also have some authority on the topic.
Though a judge may hold a very respectable position in the hobby, they do not have much policy-making authority.