Why Do SSS

[deerman]

Those that do the SSS, I think you should only do this in the case of your legal right to kill the predator. Not to hide illegal killing of predators.

By killing predators that is your legal right, then SSS can keep peace with neighbors. Also may save you money in legal fees defending your rights. Anyone can file charges, then you have to prove your were legal doing so.


Know of one case were a person killed a bird of prey did the SSS. BUSTED it had a micro chip.

Alway check your laws state and federal. Dont believe every thing you read on forum, yes even this one.

Seen many post about laws about predators this is legal this is illegal, maybe in their State, but NOT your state.

 

[silkiechicken]

And this is why we put a sticky at the top of this section that everyone should read at least once.

*This forum is for dealing with predators and pests. Period.

*If information is graphic, please note it in the subject line of your post so members can make a decision whether they want to open the thread or not. If you choose to open a thread with said warnings, it is not BYC's responsibility when you are offended.

*Dealing with predators and pests is not always pleasant. Although sometimes hard to do, please be as sensitive as possible when explaining procedures and results. Some younger members and/or squeamish adults will appreciate it.

*Although some ways are not considered ideal to some, it serves the purpose of removing the offending predator. If you have an idea or a helpful comment, please do reply. If it is a sarcastic comment about the disposal or capture of a predator, please keep your thoughts to yourself. We are not here to judge one another on methods or ways and means.

*That being said, please do not gloat or suggest torturous ways of killing for pleasure or indeed, post in such a way that your predator control can be construed as pleasure killing instead of simply taking care of a problem.

*Compassion will go a long way toward helping to educate and help solve someone's predator problem. No matter the reason, most members' birds are their pets and being a chicken doesn't make it less of a pet than a house cat or companion dog. Please don't lecture or hassle anyone about their losses. Glass houses......

*If you wish to suggest an alternate non lethal means of control, please share it in a non judgemental way that is a viable solution and not merely complaining about who was here first etc, IF if is directly related to the OP's request for assistance. If a non lethal alternative is offered, please be appreciative and remember that there are many ways and means and flaming a member for suggesting such an alternative will not be tolerated.

*It is the responsibility of the person with the predator to determine the legalities of what they do and that person will take ultimate responsibility. BYC does not condone illegal acts.

For instance, Trapping..this is a legal defence and it is not open for debate whether you prefer this method or not. This forum is designed as an aid to those who are having predator problems. It is not a debate forum on ethics.

*Please keep this in mind as we all learn from one another how to deter predators. Thanks. smile​

 

[invalidsession]

I for one could never condone killing protected species. We have a bunch of beautiful predatory birds out here including Bald and Gold Eagles which could easily kill our chickens but with a little careful work we manage to keep them honest. Sometimes when they buzz around over the coop area and show interest in the big fat girls merrily pecking away I might fire a round or two in their general vicinity to scare them away but that's about as far as I would go. They are too rare and glorious to kill, SSS is just not an option.

Chris.

 

[cmjust0]

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Holy cow...

 

[saddina]

At the top of the P&P forum there is a birds of prey sticky, how to discourage them, most are protected species so SSS is illegial.

Generally SSS is used when dealing with an owned predator, that is allowed to roam loose, and the owners are of the irrational/in denial/crazy sort.

https://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=113482

Bird of prey sticky.

 

[cmjust0]

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Yep.. When it's a non-protected pest like a coyote or a raccoon, it's SSTIW..

That is..... Shoot, Smile, Toss In Weeds.

 

[Davaroo]

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Holy cow...

Good reason not to do the middle "S" in your own backyard.
We ought to add a fourth "S" - dont be Stupid.

If you are going to engage in SSS tactics that is your choice. You pays the fee that goes with it, should it backfire. I personally do not agree entirely with the Migratory Bird Protection act, just as I am not a huge fan of any blanket policy meant to control peoples behavior.

Like many things it could be reviewed and modified. It has been many decades since it's inception. There are very few people today who wish to trade in feathers or kill BOP's simply because they exist. We have learned a few things, I think, in the last 70 years
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Fortunately, the system allows for more than one way to skin a cat (or be rid of a hawk). All we must do is be aware of and invoke these methods. Planning to do it BEFORE you get some chickens is simply prudent. As always - do your homework.

Now, lest anyone think I am a bloodthirsty advocate of wanton death, let me assure you of this:

I do believe all creatures should be left to live their lives. Each in its place and to its own devices.

But, if I am as consciencious as I can be and take all the measures I can - and they still become negatively entangled in my life (like a chicken killing hawk), then I and mine have pre-eminence.

Me -1, Predator - 0.

 

[Chicks_N_Horses]

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Holy cow...

Oh, yes....most released raptors get these.

 

[deerman]

Yes SSS if used in case of dogs, and you have the legal right to kill the dog in your state. could help.

Donot think it should be used to cover up illegal killing of predators.

 

[keystonepaul]

Is it legal to shoot a properly tagged dog that comes on your own property and not inform the owner?? I would think that would make a legal act illegal? No?

Keystonepaul