Why so against EE?
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Where does this quote come from? I do not believe Ameraucanas were bred from Easter Eggers. This history from the Ameraucana Breeders Club supports my belief.
As for the use of "mutt", that just means resulting from the interbreeding of diverse breeds which results in an unknown ancestry. That's just what Easter Eggers are, I don't see why any offense should be taken at the use of "mutt" to describe a chicken of unknown mixed ancestry.
Where does this quote come from? I do not believe Ameraucanas were bred from Easter Eggers. This history from the Ameraucana Breeders Club supports my belief.
As for the use of "mutt", that just means resulting from the interbreeding of diverse breeds which results in an unknown ancestry. That's just what Easter Eggers are, I don't see why any offense should be taken at the use of "mutt" to describe a chicken of unknown mixed ancestry.
Ameraucanas did not come from anything called an "Easter Egger". That is a recent term to encompass all the mixed breed birds that may (or may not) lay blue or green-blue eggs and usually bear a general resemblance to the Ameraucana breed. I think, as Tim said, that a review of the history of the Ameraucana would clear that up some. I'm wondering if that quote came from that tongue-in-cheek website that some are thinking is real, concerning EEs?
That said, most, if not all, accepted breeds were developed from other breeds. Wyandottes have Cochin ancestry, Barred Plymouth Rocks have Dominiques in their background, yet they are each distinct breeds with particular standards today and they all breed true. Easter Eggers do not breed true. I wouldn't call a Wyandotte a Cochin or Cochin cross, either.
My only issue with the "Easter Egger" is that it is a mixed breed parentage bird mistaken for a purebred, standardized breed called an Ameraucana. I love my own EEs. I love my Ameraucanas. I would not breed the two together and call the result an Ameraucana, though.
The term "mutt" simply means a crossbreed. It is not derogatory in the least, merely descriptive of the ancestry of the animal.
That said, most, if not all, accepted breeds were developed from other breeds. Wyandottes have Cochin ancestry, Barred Plymouth Rocks have Dominiques in their background, yet they are each distinct breeds with particular standards today and they all breed true. Easter Eggers do not breed true. I wouldn't call a Wyandotte a Cochin or Cochin cross, either.
My only issue with the "Easter Egger" is that it is a mixed breed parentage bird mistaken for a purebred, standardized breed called an Ameraucana. I love my own EEs. I love my Ameraucanas. I would not breed the two together and call the result an Ameraucana, though.
The term "mutt" simply means a crossbreed. It is not derogatory in the least, merely descriptive of the ancestry of the animal.
I have both araucana ( rumpless tufted ) and Easter Eggers ( which are my own araucana cross's). I sell my eggs at a farmers market and I have a flyer I made up that explains the difference if anyone is interested. The frustration I have is not with the hatcheries, it is with people on ebay and eggbid who list their EE's as Araucana or Americana. If a person is looking for a good quality Americana or Araucana or any breed for that matter and they want it to be the best representation of the breed for breeding or showing they should look to breeders not hatcheries. If they are looking on ebay and eggbid as i do, because a lot of reputable breeders post there, one surmises that they are expecting to get the actual breed they are looking for. If you want chickens to lay eggs and resemble your choosen breed (araucana withstanding) the hatcheries do that at a price most people can afford. The EE is a wonderful chicken. Most of mine lay beautiful blue eggs, a few lay green eggs and two lay pink eggs. My araucana's lay blue and blue green eggs.
Araucana and Americana breeders put a lot of time and effort into their choosen breed and the money they charge for birds, chicks, hatching eggs, or eating eggs helps further their hobby. I have people ask me why I charge so much for my eating eggs when they have the same birds and give the pretty blue ones to their familys as gifts.
Most people don't know the difference and don't really care, they just want pretty eggs, and nice chickens, it is the ones who do want the purbreds that are mislead.
Hope this rambling made sense. In sort EE's good, araucana's good, americana's good, people who misrepresent on purpose to make money bad.LOL!
Lanae
Araucana and Americana breeders put a lot of time and effort into their choosen breed and the money they charge for birds, chicks, hatching eggs, or eating eggs helps further their hobby. I have people ask me why I charge so much for my eating eggs when they have the same birds and give the pretty blue ones to their familys as gifts.
Most people don't know the difference and don't really care, they just want pretty eggs, and nice chickens, it is the ones who do want the purbreds that are mislead.
Hope this rambling made sense. In sort EE's good, araucana's good, americana's good, people who misrepresent on purpose to make money bad.LOL!
Lanae
Most people don't know the difference and don't really care, they just want pretty eggs, and nice chickens, it is the ones who do want the purbreds that are mislead.
Exactly!
Exactly!
Yeah, maybe that was a bad example... okay... third time's a charm right???
Imagine someone saying MY dogs are Rottweilers... true, they're black, with brown paws and eyebrows... but they are NOT rotties (not that I've got anything against rotties, Reno was a sugarpie) they are doxies... like DUH.
Pretty obvious to me, but for someone who'd only read a written description of them, coloring, well then they wouldn't know would they? So, the ones in the know would want to educate them, instead of spreading the insanity.
Also, owners are justifiably proud of their stock and wouldn't want anyone insulting them. Knowing that they are pure bred, valuable animals... to have someone call them a less than fabulous name prolly wouldn't sit too well.
If that makes any sense at all.
Imagine someone saying MY dogs are Rottweilers... true, they're black, with brown paws and eyebrows... but they are NOT rotties (not that I've got anything against rotties, Reno was a sugarpie) they are doxies... like DUH.
Pretty obvious to me, but for someone who'd only read a written description of them, coloring, well then they wouldn't know would they? So, the ones in the know would want to educate them, instead of spreading the insanity.
Also, owners are justifiably proud of their stock and wouldn't want anyone insulting them. Knowing that they are pure bred, valuable animals... to have someone call them a less than fabulous name prolly wouldn't sit too well.
If that makes any sense at all.
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Where does this quote come from? I do not believe Ameraucanas were bred from Easter Eggers. This history from the Ameraucana Breeders Club supports my belief.
As for the use of "mutt", that just means resulting from the interbreeding of diverse breeds which results in an unknown ancestry. That's just what Easter Eggers are, I don't see why any offense should be taken at the use of "mutt" to describe a chicken of unknown mixed ancestry.
I know to take everything with a grain of salt...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ameraucana
these are just a few places....
http://www.backyardpoultrymag.com/issues/2/2-3/John_W_Blehm.html
P.S. And I am by no means saying any of this is accurate. I just was questioning it.
Where does this quote come from? I do not believe Ameraucanas were bred from Easter Eggers. This history from the Ameraucana Breeders Club supports my belief.
As for the use of "mutt", that just means resulting from the interbreeding of diverse breeds which results in an unknown ancestry. That's just what Easter Eggers are, I don't see why any offense should be taken at the use of "mutt" to describe a chicken of unknown mixed ancestry.
I know to take everything with a grain of salt...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ameraucana
these are just a few places....
http://www.backyardpoultrymag.com/issues/2/2-3/John_W_Blehm.html
P.S. And I am by no means saying any of this is accurate. I just was questioning it.
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check out this thread to meet those who LOVE their EE's . . .
https://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=273489
https://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=273489
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Thanks to others for backing me up... I don't mean to speak badly of EE's, obviously in my post, I said how much I love mine!!! Someone must have had a bad day....
I refered to them as "mutts" because of what others have called them...but meant them as yes, a mixed breed. WOW....
Thanks to others for backing me up... I don't mean to speak badly of EE's, obviously in my post, I said how much I love mine!!! Someone must have had a bad day....
Hi! That's where you get into it being "really flocked up", in my opinion. A 'non-standard-colored Ameraucana' from two Ameraucana parents should still be an Ameraucana, but is referred to by the Ameraucana Club as an 'Easter Egger'. Not a mix-breed, but simple 'off-coloring' earns the *Easter Egger* tag from the Ameraucana *cough* police, I mean the Ameraucana Breeders Association.
That is another *goofy thing* to me. It's no wonder everyone is so confused!
Lisa
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That is another *goofy thing* to me. It's no wonder everyone is so confused!
Lisa
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