Well Buck Creek Paula you were correct again. Lost my third rooster today in a year. Pine shavings are killing them,did an autopsy and crop was full and so was gizzard. What does everyone use as bedding? I'm thinking of going back to the days when I was a kid and getting wheat straw just harder to work with. It was a blrw rooster this time. Not one that I got from you. Thank God. Have a great day. Thought I would post this maybe help someone. Mike