Wisconsin "Cheeseheads"

[jvls1942]

How do you re-root grape Vines? I have a HUGE amount of Vines that takes over a tree every year. We bought the house 4 years ago and they're always been here like this. I would love to trim them down and replant them in our field area instead of in the telephone wire are taking over the trees.

to remove that old root would take a back hoe. You have to dig really deep.
that is why people take cuttings.
when it is time to pick the grapes from that vine, just pull the vines out of the tree.. those vines will not fruit again.
in the fall, you can cut them off.
or better yet, wait until about February to cut them off. that is when you can take hard wood cuttings..
you can get several cuttings from each vine.. all you will need are 3 nodes on each cutting. you can get by with just two nodes , but three is better..
the nodes are those bumps on the stem where leaves were..
You can go out right now and take a couple of green cuttings. for them you need only two nodes. the top node , you will leave just one leaf. on the bottom node, you take the leaf off. that node goes about 4 inches into the dirt in your bucket..
leave about an inch or two of stem above the leaf node at the top. cut the bottom stem just 1/4" below the node.
make plenty of drainage holes in the pot.
you can put all kinds of cuttings into the same pot. set then about 1 to 2 inches apart..
do not use real good dirt. and no plant food or fertilizer..
a good mix is
1 part perlite, 1 part potting soil and
1 part vermiculite..
keep the mixture moist, but don't let any water stand in the bottom of the bucket..
pm me and I will help you out some more..
you can also train that original stem to stay out of the tree.. I can help you with that, too..
you can also do apple and pear trees with the hard wood method.
then for all plants, you can do air layering.. all you need for that is a water bottle and some moss..
......jiminwisc......

 

[jvls1942]

good evening,
today was nice out. it didn't go to waste.
I sorted out the grape vines and traced them back to their roots..
I decided that I need ten new plants.
spaced at 6ft, , that would give me one 54ft row..
.....jiminwisc.....

 

[wyoDreamer]

@jvls1942 How do you trellis your grapes?

 

[jvls1942]

@jvls1942 How do you trellis your grapes?

good morning,
I am going to put one stout pole at the ends of the row.
from what I have read, the poles and intermediate poles can be 24 feet apart.
I might shorten that distance by adding an extra post. so in a 54 ft row, divided by 3 is 18 feet..
stretch wires at 42 and 60 inches from the ground . they have to be really tight so they don't sag. so the end posts have to be well anchored and braced..
there is a device made for tightening electric fence wire.
tie the wire around one end post and then install the fence stretcher to the other end post.. it operates like a boat winch .. or a come along ..
look up 4 arm kniffel ..
....jiminwisc.......

 

[wyoDreamer]

I wonder something like that will work for hops.
The lady who owned the house before us planted hops along the ends of the side entry porch - it has a arbor roof. I think her idea was to have the hops grow up and over the arbor. It would be a neat effect, but the hops tendrils tend to stick to my dogs fur as they brush past. The hops don't get to grow up the posts at all and they are beaten down pretty bad.
I would like to move the plants to a non-dog area...

 

[CherMoz]

Red and white onions pulled this evening:

 

[jvls1942]

good morning,
Wyom, maybe you could cut the tendrils off
and tie the hops manually for the first 4 ft up the trellis.then they can go from there on their own.. never too late to try.
On a farm just a couple of miles from me, they had a good patch of hops. they set long poles all over in about a 1 acre area.
I drove by there last fall, and they are not there any more..
I wonder how many plants it would take to make a batch of beer ??
nice onions.. they are a lot of work..
I tried them in a box of compost last year.
they failed miserably ..
tried beets in another box. planted them twice. nothing ever came up..
I bought a nice new hand pruner.. less than $9.oo.. can't wait to put it to work..
..........jiminwisc......
ETA: I looked up a couple of you tubes about hops..
they are almost an invasive species..
Wyo, you should have no trouble reviving those roots.
and they should crawl up the sides and over the top of the trellis.
apparently, one root is enough for several batches of beer.
Hmmmm..have to give this some thought..

 

[bigzio]

I've thought about hops as a cash here too. I watched a pbs special about them a while ago...the craft beer industry love s the distinct taste of hops grown in different areas, giving their beer a special taste.

bigz

 

[babylady4]

Wisconsin used to produce quite a bit of hops; now I believe we have maybe 100 acres in the state? I would need to check that....

Anyway Gorst Valley Hops in SW WI would be the people to contact. I have also researched growing hops; you make giant V shaped wire trellises and then once the hope grow tall enough you sent in a low grazing animal like sheep/goats to clear the weeds and the base plant materials to prevent mold, pests, etc. A costly setup in the beginning though.

 

[jvls1942]

You can also grow hops over a trellis. Like grapes ..
for a hobby grower, you don't need acres of the plants.
I would consider over stocking the area with geese instead of sheep..
I can just picture goats standing up and eating everything from 6ft high down to the ground..
.....jiminwisc.....