Women in the military

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I agree, in part. The DoD recognizes two reasons for fitness requirements.

The first is overall general health and body composition. The need for a healthy military is obvious. Body composition is related to public perception, a military member should look like he or she is fit. These requirements are generally met by service-wide standards.

The second is for physical accomplishment of one's occupational duties. Above and beyond the general force fitness standards this is usually accomplished by additional MOS specific requirements, either enforced by specific standards or by general job accomplishment (if you can't do the job, then you are out).

Service-wide requirements are generally in place for overall health of the force and only serve as a baseline for jobs requiring increased physical fitness.

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I was in artillery. We trained hard, but we would see the infantry go slogging by and appreciate that it could be much worse. We ran in shorts and a t-shirt. They ran at least 2x a week in full gear with their protective mask on and m-16's at port arms. I think if they let women in to combat arms, they would test them to be sure they could do it. Basic training with AIT is designed to sort it out. It tends to be tougher than just basic training by itself, then flying off to language school, or file cabinet school.

As for men putting themselves out there to save women. I think that in combat arms the women would tend to be masculine. Not saying all and not saying they would be of a different orientation. Just saying that they would have to be masculine to survive.

Now if you were in a situation over in say Afghanistan and the Army had a base set up with a full support staff. Including women that more closely mimicked those you see in civilian life and the base got attacked and the perimeter breached. Then you may see some men doing the protective thing for a woman that hasn't fired her m-16 since basic training. If you were in an infantry unit you will be more concerned about how good she is at covering your back.

The only problem I can see is having a man and woman sharing a foxhole on guard duty. They might get distracted from their duty.
 
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Thats the way my wife is too. She's actually the brains in this outfit going after masters then phd in another few.. And once in a while, she lets me pretend I run things around here
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My wife likes to create the illusion that I'm in charge by letting me pick what's for dinner. Anything else except finances she takes care of. As for getting what she wants. She has a knack of getting me to somehow suggest that what she wants is a good idea and we should do it. Then she feigns disagreement and then when it turns out to be a horrible idea it was my idea.
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How do you women do that anyway?
 
I'm liking the idea of an All Woman Military. Put a few moms in as generals and things would change. Us guys could stay home and fly drones from our X-boxes. :pLOL.
 
Thanks for the laughs. Now here is one for you guys to think about, I was working part time and going to school at night my DH worked full time and came home after work and had the kids he had to cook dinner, help with home work and get them baths and in to bed. He told me that he found out how hard it can be to be a stay at home mom or a single mom and has the up most respect for women who do this everyday. I did end up giving up school but that was my choice due to missing my kids concerts and things. It was a great lesson for DH.
 
Hubby and I had times where I made more money and he stayed home with the kids. Other times he made more money and I was home. Since we both did the homemaker job, neither of us takes any part of it for granted. It may be part of the reason we are going to celebrate our 25th anniversary this winter
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I think it also helped that I grew up as the only girl in a neighborhood full of boys and hubby has 4 sisters. He mostly "gets" girls. I mostly "get" guys.
 
Does what I write here personally effect you? If so I apologize in advance.
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Why do you go about talking about a movie that portrays a turkey baster as a parent?
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So why are you going on about things you don't understand the reason for, then?

Thanks Mac.. btw.

I thank God above for the women that came before and fought so hard for the liberation of women.

I also feel pity for those shriveled, inferior souls who feel the need to try so hard to put down others.

I watched a movie once that I described here on the forum not long ago. It portrayed a plague that wiped out 95% of the male population. Those that were left were locked up for the safety of those who remained. Without males around.. the world found peace. Conflicts were ones women could solve at the bargaining table.. and when women were sucessful they were gifted with AI to have children.
Hmmmm...
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As I stated earlier, the point of physical fitness testing is to ensure every military member is physically fit. If a woman passes the physical fitness test she is considered physically fit. That's all. Military physical fitness standards do not ensure that a person can physically do every task in every MOS or that a woman can "hump 120 lbs of crap". If that is the job she wants and she can't do it, then she'll be be getting another MOS in short order.

I thought I'd throw my opinion out.

I have no problem with a female in combat. Now having stated that here is the BUT... A female in the military does have to met certain physical standards just as the is male but is allowed to complete the physical fitness test under different guidelines, different number of situps, pushups are different, calculated time for completion of certain tests, etc. Until a female can complete the physical guidelines that are required in the same capacity as her male counterpart the female should not be allowed into a combat role.

I'm female, I've been involved in the military all my life in some way or the other.
 
There are prejudices in the military that men do not have to deal with and a good percentage of men re-enlist for patriotic reasons acquired after being there. Women think and view things from a different perspective. I view their reasons as neutral connotations as to not judge them.
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I think the same could be said for many men, yet for men it is characterized as being "off to see the world" or "adventuresome". I'm not sure how that ends up being a negative connotation for women.
 

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