Won't the USA ever learn?????? A little world history

[Steve_of_sandspoultry]

Ok just watching the news about the turmoil in Egypt. Guess what, our government has been suporting their government, I didn't know that and I try to keep current. So at the end they did a piece about the tear gas cannisters the police were firing. Guess what they had written on them? Made in USA. Will we never learn????? Not us as a people to a point but our government? They should be made to take a history class before they get into office. Start with.

1) How the USA backed up Batista in Cuba prior to Castro
2) Backing up Pappa Doc and Baby Doc in Haiti
3) Backing up the Shah of Iran prior to their revelotion
4) Vietnam
5) Afganistan

Will we never learn to not support the loosing team? And we can't understand why the rest of the world looks at us as the bad guy.


Steve

 

[PepsNick]

I agree.

Heeeeeeeere we go again...

 

[Royd]

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Those must have been some left over canisters from WW2...Or else, they'd have said, "Made in China."

 

[Steve_of_sandspoultry]

Not hardly, i'm sure they saved all the made in USA stuff to be used only for "at the wrong place at the wrong time"

You just have to shake your head sometimes at our leaders, ......ok shake your head often.................ok make your neck sore............

Steve

 

[redhen]

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Those must have been some left over canisters from WW2...Or else, they'd have said, "Made in China."

 

[seedcorn]

easy answer, NO. See history, man doesn't learn. Makes same mistakes over and over and over and over......

 

[EweSheep]

And more of those leftovers from Vietnam?

No thanks!

 

[welsummerchicks]

I don't think world history is that simple, especially the history written today.

Mubarak can't win this time, not completely.

The tanks are all rolled into the government buildings area of Cairo, and things may be very different tomorrow. Maybe, but many of the army officers may not be loyal to Mubarak.

He's had many revolts and protests during his rule, but I think this time it's different.

We've backed someone who has ignored the needs of their country for 30 years.

We made, basically, a deal, to try and help our own people be safer and more secure. We had to. But now we are seeing the results. And no, I don't think it's just us.

The bottom line is that no action is a wise action in a hot zone. No matter what you do, it's not going to last, and it's not going to always be possible to push things in our favor.

Mubarak isn't the only person who can run that country and keep the extremists at bay. It doesn't have to be him. I think that was our mistake; it certainly is his mistake.

Egypt has a large middle class of young, affluent, educated moderates that are sick of the way things are - and Egypt has been getting more open to the world and more prosperous, it had over 6% growth last year, all it's done is grow for the last 5 yrs, because of these well educated, young moderates. I don't actually believe these people want a revolt or a revolution, they want jobs and simple rights.

Iran not unhappy? Oh I bet it is, actually. It seems very unlikely, at least at this point, that the muslim extremists will get Egypt hat *** and handbasket.

There would have to be some very, very big changes yet. Most of the analysts do not think that is going to happen at this point.

The media doesn't have all the information?

No one does. No one really has a crystal ball. I think the analysts have sound arguments and I think the odds are with the educated and experienced analysts being right, or at least partially right, but no one really knows what is going to happen.

 

[Steve_of_sandspoultry]

We've backed someone who has ignored the needs of their country for 30 years.

Exactly my point in starting this thread, and we have done it time and time and time again and come out loosing and looking like tha bad guy each and every time. It's not about Egypt, Cuba, Haiti etc etc etc. it's about we don't learn, don't care, won't learn.... pick one. all are true and that needs to change IMO

Steve​

 

[welsummerchicks]

Respectfully, I don't agree. I respect your opinion and I can thoroughly understand how you got to that point.

We have to make a lot of very difficult decisions to keep our country safe, and make an awful lot of decisions without the crystal ball.

I think of the world situation as being a little bit like in 'Men in Black'. We don't really know, and probably couldn't handle, what goes on, or the realities of what we wind up having to do.

I don't think the government of our country cavalierly or casually decides to get involved. I really do not.

We have done some stupid things and some very ill advised things. I never like to see our people get shot at in a foreign land.

However, I don't believe we can sit over here and just pretend the rest of the world doesn't exist and can't effect us, either. I think that is extremely, naive. The world is not that simple.