Wormer please

[J's chickens]

do anyone have types of wormer and dosages they recommend? My 7 chickens gave my 3 dogs worms
Do we have worms because we have been eating their eggs???

 

[EggSighted4Life]

Hi, welcome to BYC!

I'm not sure what makes you thinks your chickens gave your dogs worm. Maybe it was the opposite. Dogs get worms even when NO chickens are present. It's why so many people worm their puppies. They even get them when nursing on mum.

No, you don't have worms from eating their eggs. Eggs come from within the oviduct while worms are in the intestinal tract.

As far as I know only round worms and tape worms can be seen in fecal dropping. But more than that not all wormers will treat for all types of worms. And the worms build resistance to the chemicals rendering them ineffective when used more often than needed or not alternated correctly.

What I highly suggest is taking a fecal sample to the vet for a float to make sure you are treating for the correct worm species. Many worms that aren't visible are detected by their egg count under a microscope and then load is reported to you to determine if you SHOULD treat and with WHAT. If you use the wrong wormer for your situation then you wasted your time and money and ended up with a false sense of security. Especially considering that many wormers require you to withhold eggs for a period of time, best to be sure and use the right thing the first time around. Even though you spend ($15 at my vet), in the long run may save you...

You CANNOT get worms from eating eggs!

Hope this helps a bit.

 

[J's chickens]

Lol... I wasn't sure about the eggs, that question was just a newbie freak out lol. I have 3 hunting dogs, 3 hunting cats, horses... and now chickens. I know a bit about worms.... my animals haven't hunted in the last 6 months since my horse died and the same for the cats since they came home from the barn. We've had no worm outbreak. We got chickens and one of the dogs began obsessing over eating the chcicken poop. He is the only one to get worms thus far. I checked symptoms for worms in chickens because they were the only new items in the environment.
Turns out two of my chickens were displaying telltale signs and I had no idea because I didn't research chickens before I got them. I don't believe in treating just the one that I know about I believe in treating all so all my animals are getting treated because they all eat off the ground which now has worms too. I'm also treating the ground with diatomaceous earth as well.
I was just looking for dosages for chickens of wormer...

 

[J's chickens]

Oh and yep, it was tapeworms.... like tiny aliens crawling around... I caught them crawling out of my dogs butt too.....
soooooooooooooooooooooo disgusting

 

[EggSighted4Life]

Oh and yep, it was tapeworms.... like tiny aliens crawling around... I caught them crawling out of my dogs butt too.....
soooooooooooooooooooooo disgusting

Please note with everything I ask, I am not being sassy but truly learning. What were those tell tell signs you saw in your 2 chickens?

One of my newly adopted pups had tape worms. I learned that a major cause of them was an ingested flea... This link has 1 treatment...
http://www.akc.org/content/health/articles/tapeworms-in-dogs-symptoms-treatment-and-prevention/

Anyways, my suggestion is still a fecal float to identify all species you might be dealing with in order to get them all when you treat.

There are so many product on the market. I apologize, I have not yet wormed my birds or had much experience with the different wormers. I do have a sample kit so I can take it to the vet as soon as I am ready.

One thing I can tell you is that the fixes like feed pumpkin/pumpkin seeds or DE are ineffective as wormers.

My dogs eat chicken poo um... relentlessly. We haven't had any outbreaks that I know of, in 6 years. But also we have so many wild animals visiting our property, there are many things that are out of my control. Let me give you an example. Now that I have chickens, the rats/rodents visit my run every night despite the fact that my feeders are all secured. They are going after the shrapnel left behind from messy eaters. Rodents carry things like fleas, tick, lice, mites, and all kinds of possible diseases. My dogs don't have fleas, but they could swallow one while hunting rats. I didn't know they caught something. There was a clump of dirt one of my dogs picked up by it tail and I realized oh, that's something dead. Well, it must have been wet from my dogs mouth (things always are) and them when the dog left it on the ground and continued digging in the whole, that 1 got semi buried or like I say looked like a clump of dirt. With my gloves I escorted the deceased rodent to the front of my property and ugh, it must have been dead for a couple days, because it definitely stunk. My point being that even though my dogs don't sport fleas in their undercoats, they still could easily ingest one that I don't realize. And yes, I guess the chickens DO add more opportunity to pass worms to dogs, than without them. I know even earth worm have eggs form (some other species) and so chickens can get that other species (sorry for my vagueness) from ingesting earth worms, which I turn a shovel of dirt specifically for my shooks to get them!

I don't mind trying to help find dosages for wormer, there should be tons of info..

Keep in mind that DE becomes useless when wet, like from morning dew (according to research I've seen). It may treat some of your surface bugs, but I don't know what effect if any that it will have on their microscopic eggs.

All your hunting animals sound like a riot!

I need me some of those cats, that won't hunt my young chicks.

 

[casportpony]

Chickens get chicken worms, dogs get dog worms. If your dogs have tape worms you need to treat them with a product that contains praziquantel, which you can get at Petmart, Petco, or online.

Chicken tapeworms also need praziquantel. There are a couple of products that have this, one is Equimax horse paste, the other is Wormout Gel.

Wormout Gel dose is 47 ml per gallon for two days. Repeat in 10-14 days. This product will treat almost all poultry worms
Equimax dose is 0.03 ml per pound and repeat in 10-14 days. This will not treat all poultry worms.

 

[lazy gardener]

Again, ES4L raises an important question: what have you seen in your chickens that leads you to believe that they have worms? If you don't see visible worms, then you really haven't seen signs to indicate that they DO have worms. You need to get a fecal float test done before simply treating your chickens for a worm load that may or may not even be present. CPP makes a valid point that worms are species specific. And the intermediate vector for tape worm is the flea. SO, treating your birds for tapeworm may be a wasted expense, as well as exposing them to medication that they absolutely do not need. If you've seen tapeworm in your dog(s) then, absolutely treat that, but don't treat your chickens unless you like giving un-needed medication.

 

[casportpony]

Oh and yep, it was tapeworms.... like tiny aliens crawling around... I caught them crawling out of my dogs butt too.....
soooooooooooooooooooooo disgusting

@lazy gardener , the above post led me to believe that the OP might have seen this in the dogs and in the chickens.

@J's chickens , if you have not seen tapeworms in chicken poo you might not need to worm them. Please call you vet and ask about having a fecal test done.

Edited to correct typo.

 

[lazy gardener]

Well, now... that's a horse of a different color. If she saw TW segments in/on chicken's vents... then she will most likely want to go ahead and treat, and avoid the expense of a fecal float!!

 

[casportpony]

@J's chickens , these are chicken tape segments:

This is a dog tape segment

Please confirm that what you saw around your chickens was a chicken tape and *not* a maggot.

Fly maggot: