worming advice please

[Chickery Chick]

Panacur and Safeguard are both exactly the same. They are the same active ingredient (Fenbendazole) and the same strength(s) and even manufactured by the same company (Intervet). The main difference (as far as I can discern) is that Panacur is available by prescription or through a Veterinarian only whereas Safeguard is widely available.
The reason it may have helped your chicken that may have bacteria infection is Fenbendazole (key word "zole"). Most anything ending in "zole" has ingredients to reduce bacteria growth. When administering such type of "zole" products it is important to also administer yogurt or better yet, a probiotic, which puts the good bacteria back in the system. "zole" does not only kill bad bacteria, it kills good too. Most recommendations say 3 day treatment, but I find that 5 days is better. It is quite safe and hard to over-does. 1cc per 5 lbs is what the instructions.
Safeguard (Fenbendazole) can be purchased at most any feed store. It comes in tubes of paste and bottles of liquid. I like the liquid. The paste is very concentrated and very hard to measure down for small animals (pencil eraser size for a 5 lb animal). The paste is best for large livestock weighing over 100 lbs. You will find that the Safeguard liquid bottle will last a long time and more than you will need for one small animal. You can use it to worm your dog, goat, cat if you have any. No need to pay the Vet to do worming, unless it has tapeworms. Use 5 days in a row. This also helps with giardia, a common bad bacteria that animals get, remember the "zole" http://www.vetinfo.com/canine-giardia-treatment-panacur.html
Treatment of Safeguard for chickens form.
https://www.backyardchickens.com/t/...enbendazole-i-think-im-seeing-results-already
Controversial thread but it was very interesting on MG and not culling. Ends up the chick just had a cold, and another from harvest dust. but thought to be MG.
https://www.backyardchickens.com/t/468851/mycoplasma-infection-how-to-treat

 

[mamakat74]

Panacur and Safeguard are both exactly the same. They are the same active ingredient (Fenbendazole) and the same strength(s) and even manufactured by the same company (Intervet). The main difference (as far as I can discern) is that Panacur is available by prescription or through a Veterinarian only whereas Safeguard is widely available.
The reason it may have helped your chicken that may have bacteria infection is Fenbendazole (key word "zole"). Most anything ending in "zole" has ingredients to reduce bacteria growth. When administering such type of "zole" products it is important to also administer yogurt or better yet, a probiotic, which puts the good bacteria back in the system. "zole" does not only kill bad bacteria, it kills good too. Most recommendations say 3 day treatment, but I find that 5 days is better. It is quite safe and hard to over-does. 1cc per 5 lbs is what the instructions.
Safeguard (Fenbendazole) can be purchased at most any feed store. It comes in tubes of paste and bottles of liquid. I like the liquid. The paste is very concentrated and very hard to measure down for small animals (pencil eraser size for a 5 lb animal). The paste is best for large livestock weighing over 100 lbs. You will find that the Safeguard liquid bottle will last a long time and more than you will need for one small animal. You can use it to worm your dog, goat, cat if you have any. No need to pay the Vet to do worming, unless it has tapeworms. Use 5 days in a row. This also helps with giardia, a common bad bacteria that animals get, remember the "zole" http://www.vetinfo.com/canine-giardia-treatment-panacur.html
Treatment of Safeguard for chickens form.
https://www.backyardchickens.com/t/...enbendazole-i-think-im-seeing-results-already
Controversial thread but it was very interesting on MG and not culling. Ends up the chick just had a cold, and another from harvest dust. but thought to be MG.
https://www.backyardchickens.com/t/468851/mycoplasma-infection-how-to-treat

OK, so since I gave .3 mls, 3 days in a row two separate times, and although it greatly reduced her gaping, she still is doing it some, what would you recommend at this point? She was seen by a vet between those treatments. Fecal was negative, and the vet saw no signs of upper respiratory or anything else, and thought I was probably on target about the gapes. Of course, this vet, although she works on birds, is not a chicken expert.

 

[Chickery Chick]

Here is a good link, especially the link within a link that Dawg gives, that explains why the worming is to be given intermittently. I highly recommend reading all of it and the links provided. I've never had gapeworms or MD but I did find the information there fascinating.
https://www.backyardchickens.com/t/626463/gape-worm

 

[dawg53]

Panacur and Safeguard are both exactly the same. They are the same active ingredient (Fenbendazole) and the same strength(s) and even manufactured by the same company (Intervet). The main difference (as far as I can discern) is that Panacur is available by prescription or through a Veterinarian only whereas Safeguard is widely available.
The reason it may have helped your chicken that may have bacteria infection is Fenbendazole (key word "zole"). Most anything ending in "zole" has ingredients to reduce bacteria growth. When administering such type of "zole" products it is important to also administer yogurt or better yet, a probiotic, which puts the good bacteria back in the system. "zole" does not only kill bad bacteria, it kills good too. Most recommendations say 3 day treatment, but I find that 5 days is better. It is quite safe and hard to over-does. 1cc per 5 lbs is what the instructions.
Safeguard (Fenbendazole) can be purchased at most any feed store. It comes in tubes of paste and bottles of liquid. I like the liquid. The paste is very concentrated and very hard to measure down for small animals (pencil eraser size for a 5 lb animal). The paste is best for large livestock weighing over 100 lbs. You will find that the Safeguard liquid bottle will last a long time and more than you will need for one small animal. You can use it to worm your dog, goat, cat if you have any. No need to pay the Vet to do worming, unless it has tapeworms. Use 5 days in a row. This also helps with giardia, a common bad bacteria that animals get, remember the "zole" http://www.vetinfo.com/canine-giardia-treatment-panacur.html
Treatment of Safeguard for chickens form.
https://www.backyardchickens.com/t/...enbendazole-i-think-im-seeing-results-already
Controversial thread but it was very interesting on MG and not culling. Ends up the chick just had a cold, and another from harvest dust. but thought to be MG.
https://www.backyardchickens.com/t/468851/mycoplasma-infection-how-to-treat

A prescription is not needed for panacur. It can be purchased at any feed store that carries it, for example; TSC.
http://www.tractorsupply.com/webapp...1_CatalogEntry_en_US&searchTerm=panacur+paste

 

[dawg53]

OK, so since I gave .3 mls, 3 days in a row two separate times, and although it greatly reduced her gaping, she still is doing it some, what would you recommend at this point? She was seen by a vet between those treatments. Fecal was negative, and the vet saw no signs of upper respiratory or anything else, and thought I was probably on target about the gapes. Of course, this vet, although she works on birds, is not a chicken expert.

I figured the fecal would have negative results. No signs of respiratory problems....have you considered that your hen might simply be adjusting her crop? Yeah, it's normal for them to do this, gaping is part of it.

 

[Chickery Chick]

Good to know Panacur is not a prescription only. I did not know that. Thanks Dawg.

 

[casportpony]

Here is a liter of Panacur that you can get with a prescription:
http://www.kvsupply.com/panacur-suspension-10-fenbendazole-liter

I haven't been able to find OTC Panacur that's not paste. Makes no sense to me, it's all the same.

-Kathy