Worms...AGAIN. Please help...I dont know what I can use now!

[casportpony]

The theraputic ivermectin dose is 200 micrograms per kilogram, so that's 454 micrograms for a five pound chicken, right?

-Kathy

 

[casportpony]

This is what this book says about treating gapeworms:







And I have many more.

-Kathy


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[Eradicator]

Fenbendazole is not systemic but passes right through the digestive system, so tell me how a worm that attaches itself to the inside of the throat and feeds off of blood gets treated with a de-wormer that never enters the blood stream.
Ivermectin is systemic and get into every part of a animals body.

 

[casportpony]

Fenbendazole is not systemic but passes right through the digestive system, so tell me how a worm that attaches itself to the inside of the throat and feeds off of blood gets treated with a de-wormer that never enters the blood stream.
Ivermectin is systemic and get into every part of a animals body.

Believe what you want, I have treated gapes with fenbendazole and have seen studies that say the same.

Here's one:

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Efficacy of fenbendazole against helminth parasites of poultry in Uganda.

Ssenyonga GS.

Abstract

Fenbendazole 4% (Panacur, Hoechst) administered in feed was used to treat chickens infected with Ascaridia galli, Heterakis gallinarum and Railletina spp. It was also used to treat Syngamus trachea in broiler birds. There was a marked drop in helminth egg counts in the faeces on the second day of treatment and the faeces became negative by the seventh day after the last treatment. Post-mortem examination 15 to 21 days later showed that the drug was 100% effective against Ascaridia galli and Heterakis gallinarum at 10 mg/kg. However, for complete removal of Railletina spp. 15 mg/kg was required. Similarly 20 mg/kg fenbendazole was effective against Syngamus trachea. It was concluded that fenbendazole is suitable for the treatment of the important intestinal and tracheal worms of poultry, a dose of 15 to 20 mg/kg for 3 consecutive days being recommended for use under field conditions.

-Kathy

 

[enola]

I thought it has been proven that Ivermectin is virtually useless when used on chickens.....

 

[casportpony]

I thought it has been proven that Ivermectin is virtually useless when used on chickens.....

You are correct, but even if it did work, the product being discussed does not have enough ivermectin for a five pound chicken.

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I suspect it started off as a dog wormer and someone decided to say it will work on poultry, but the numbers just aren't correct.

-Kathy

 

[casportpony]

A study:

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Ivermectin as a bird anthelmintic--trials with naturally infected domestic fowl.

Oksanen A, Nikander S.

Abstract

To evaluate the use of ivermectin as a bird anthelmintic, 29 White Leghorn hens naturally infected with Ascaridia spp., Heterakis spp. and Capillaria spp. were treated with 0.2, 2 or 6 mg/kg intramuscularly or 0.2 or 0.8 mg/kg orally. Faecal samples were collected before treatment and at autopsy, 2, 6, or 16 days after treatment, when the intestines were also examined for helminths. None of the treatments gave satisfactory anthelmintic results.

-Kathy

 

[enola]

In an earlier post, the claim was that the capsules contained DE, also. How big are these pills?

 

[casportpony]

In an earlier post, the claim was that the capsules contained DE, also. How big are these pills?

Lol, no clue. They're made for dogs, but even then I wonder if the doses are correct.

-Kathy

 

[casportpony]

Here's another study:

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Anthelmintic efficacy of ivermectin against Syngamus trachea and Capillaria spp. in pheasant.

Lamka J1, Svobodová V, Slézková J.

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Abstract

Ivermectin (IVM) was perorally administered in dosage schemes 1 x 0.8 mg/kg of body weight (b.w.), 1 x 1.6 mg/kg h.w., 3 x 0.8 mg/kg b.w., and 3 x 1.6 mg/kg b.w. to pheasants infected by Syngamus trachea and Capillaria spp. The samples of faeces were coprologically examined. The clinical state of pheasant was controlled. In all of the used therapeutical schemes the helminthostatic or partially helminthocide effect against adults of worms was reached. The clinical signs of helmithoses were reduced only. IVM in tested doses is not possible to recommend as an effective drug of pheasant syngamosis and capillariosis.

-Kathy