Would they breed true?

Discussion in 'General breed discussions & FAQ' started by ninjascrub69, Oct 11, 2010.

  1. ninjascrub69

    ninjascrub69 Chillin' With My Peeps

    Aug 13, 2010
    Bloomingdale, MI
    I've had many chickens that have a red "shoulder" and hackle feathers (from a black bird X red bird) would they breed true, or would they be different colors if i bred them together?
  2. punky rooster

    punky rooster Awesome

    Jul 21, 2010
    try it and lets see [​IMG]
  3. ninjascrub69

    ninjascrub69 Chillin' With My Peeps

    Aug 13, 2010
    Bloomingdale, MI
    Quote:I think im going to [​IMG] . If they do breed true i'll probably try to get the color recognized by the APA by selling it to a ton of ppl in Allegan county, and on ebay (so it will spread fast and be sort of well known) and contacting the APA. It'll probably take a few years but it's worth it.
    Last edited: Oct 11, 2010
  4. usschicago1

    usschicago1 Suburban Cochins

    Aug 11, 2009
    Taunton, MA
    Its not that easy. Even if they did breed true, and we perfectly identicle siblings, and you sold them to 100 people, you would have to get everyone to get there birds NPIP tested, then convince them all to show. THEN convince the apa or aba and so on. It certainly can take more than a few years. But goodluck [​IMG]
  5. Illia

    Illia Crazy for Colors

    Oct 19, 2009
    Forks, WA
    It would take I believe 3-10 breeders, NPIP certified, with 5 years experience on the color variation, and all with a proposed standard for the color that they have been following for this all to work. [​IMG]

    Black and Red just make black with red leakage - Those offspring bred together will just throw more black, red, red-leaked black, and even wheaten.

    If you actually want a black bird with red, try working on the Black Copper color, not just crossing random colors. [​IMG]
  6. punky rooster

    punky rooster Awesome

    Jul 21, 2010
    punky [​IMG]
  7. Coopa Cabana

    Coopa Cabana My Coop Runneth Over . . .

    Aug 30, 2009
    My Coop
    It's not an easy journey:



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