would you raise chicks in these conditions?

I dunno, But this would not really be a big problem for me. I can tell someone congratulations and not have to get all uoohy goooghy and excited about it. I can also tell someone I don't like the way they care for the animals they have or had. and they are piling up a record of results to support my opinion. First of all I can't change the fact they can buy and own animals and would not try. but I don't have to smile and ignore what I don't like either. I woudl flat out tell them I don't like how they care for their animals and one don't really want to see it. and two don't really want to know what they think of my way of doing it until they can do a better job. I would also tell them I consider many cases of what they do abuse and even if I can't stop them. there are people that can. And I will use that resource to protect animals that cannot protect themselves. Simple as that. hear my correction or have someone elses. Then live with what the authorities decision is. if they leave the animals then come to acceptance about it.
 
Why not call the local authorities here its the dog pound but that is animal cruelty I can't see why someone doesn't call someone, I would if those people can't take care of their basic care they don't deserve animals and the person that bought the calf should have known better then to buy a 3 week old calf. someone needs to put the fear of God into these folks maybe the local authorities could find them or something hit them in the pocket maybe that will help I am not nice when it comes to kids and animals being mistreated.
 
My best friend is like this with her animals. When we met she didn't have any animals, and during that time we became very close, like sisters. Since then, she's had rabbits that got out because she didn't act after I showed her how to build the right pen. She's had cats that she let out and they disappeared. She had a dauchsund that her son was mistreating so I took it away (cut her ear with scissors, TWICE
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) . Now she has 2 new dogs that are treated better (still, not to my standards), and then I found out a couple months ago that she got a HORSE!
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Fortunately her Dh is a horse person and I think it will be treated decently.

I lover her to death. I have tried to talk to her gently, I have fussed at her. I finally realized that I still want to be her friend, so I try very hard not to interact with her animals so I don't attach to them (see above- dog I took home). It does seem she's not inclined to listen to me initially but she does seem to absorb SOME of what I tell her (her dogs are now crate trained, let inside the house, and mostly potty trained, even!) There is hope! I think I would be inclined to "gift" them with a new coop, for the sake of the birds.

And High Roost Ranch is right, some people just shouldn't own animals. IMO we just have to be the best examples for them we can be.
 

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