Yaye! Worked out how to post pic of my coop build progress!!

[SandBsmom]

What about heavy duty bird netting. I have found 50x100 heavy nets for under $200. Seems more affordable than hardware cloth and all the wood it would take. I haven't built mine yet but that's what I was planning on doing for the unroofed part of my yard.

 

[kiwiegg]

Thanks, I'll look into the bird netting. Why does the run have wire buried underground? Thehens won't be hanging out in the run at night time and will a racoon wander up in the middle of the day and begin digging? Does the run need to be super duper predator proof if the coop is ? If I was free ranging would I even have a run? I get the attack from above scenario (we have eagles and hawkes) but don't get the fort knox run....please enlighten me, I am learning a bunch of stuff every day on byc!

 

[Stumpy]

It looks great! Very professional and attractive. I like the weather vane especially.

 

[fiddlebanshee]

My philosophy is that raccoons, fox and dogs would probably try to get close to the weakest points in your defense system so if you don't have a good fence system they may dig under. Especially dogs could do that in the daytime. I've also seen enough raccoons at dusk when the chickens are still hanging out in the run.

 

[kiwiegg]

Thanks Stumpy. fiddlebanshee, I think you're right. I have a clear plan in my head now about an attached run on 3 sides but I'm still not 100% on how to create a worry free zone on the bottom edges. I have read putting hardware cloth under the entire run and bringing it out a couple of feet and also digging vertical trenches to bury wire. I'm interested in the best long term solution, not the easiest one - problem is I can't tell which is which!. If I get this run on super lock-down, how do I incorporate a people door that does not compromise the rest of it? Does anyone have a close-up pick of a run people door?

THANKS FOR ALL YOUR HELP!!

 

[fiddlebanshee]

I built my people door from doubled up 1x4s with hardware cloth sandwiched in between. I just realized I have no pictures of that on the member page. It's dark out now but will take a pic tomorrow and post. I also have a latch with a wire pin that I don't think raccoons could open. Also made sure there were no gaps below or to the sides that something could get their claws around. The door opens inward. It's been my experience that this is better to keep the chickens in when we enter (not foolproof, but almost). The chickens will be all plastered onto the door when we approach and gently pushing the door inward will usually push them away from the opening. Although I sometimes have one that slips through my legs, the times that happened they were so paralyzed by panic of "being outside the run OMG". that I could easily pick them up and put them back in.

I ran the HC on the sides of the run about 18 inches horizontally after it hit the ground. So it's one piece coming from the run wall, extending 18" (about) horizontally. I weighted it down with rocks and now there is a big load of leaves on top of it. The idea was that digging critters start digging near the fence line itself and if they hit the HC don't think to back up and tunnel. Here's a pic where you can sort of see that:



Digging it in a foot deep is probably a better bet, but I live on top of a mountain and the thought of having to dig a foot deep trench to bury the HC was just inconceivable. I have not noticed anything digging yet. Except the chickens who are determined to dig their way to Australia. I shouldn't have gotten Australorps! They're homesick.

We have recently spotted a black bear, so I have now surrounded the entire "compound" with electronetting that has a 8K volt discharge when touched. I have no doubts that a bear could tear its way into the coop and run without much problems; it is impossible to build for that with wood.

 

[kiwiegg]

Thanks again! Yes, if you could post a close up of your runs people door tomorrow I would appreciate it!

 

[fiddlebanshee]

Here are some pictures I took this morning. All of this is made out of 1x4 treated lumber.
Front


Back


Detail of the sandwiched hardware cloth


Detail of the slampost that is in the frame to give it more resistance to critters that try to open it.

 

[kiwiegg]

Thank you so much! I'm all about the details! If I can see it or visualize it I can build it. These pics will be very helpful. Those screws you used are the best aren't they.

 

[fiddlebanshee]

Yes, I must have screwed in close to a thousand to fasten the hc. I still have tendonitis from it. Everytime i hold a drill it comes back.

As you can see I didn't bother with diagonal braces. The consensus between me and my carpenter friend who helped me with the heavy lifting was that the hardware cloth would provide enough rigidity so that it wouldn't sag. So far so good. It's been in place and used for about 8 months and works great still!