YO GEORGIANS! :)

[Flowerbh]

I haven't but I would love to have a true Ameraucana...or two.

Oh, Flower I discovered I have a pink egg layer in the Gamefowl/EE pen. These were the ones running free the neighbor left behind. I know I have at least one EE in that pen because she lays a greenish blue egg. I thought the others were Gamefowl hens. The outside of the the shell is pinkish cream and the inside of the shell is light pink. Could this be an EE egg? Two game hens I have lay an almost white egg so I thought they all would. I will try to get a picture of the shell if the sun ever peeks out. My camera doesn't do so well with lighting inside.

There are only two egg shell colors.....white and blue. So the pinkish tint you see INSIDE the shell is really white. The shell may be thin and you are just seeing the outside color thru the shell. The color of an egg depends on how much color coating is added to the egg as it exits the body. (My kids grossly call it Butt juice) So, your hen is laying a white egg with a small amount of brown coloring, thus you get that pinkish tint. I have an EE who lays a nice pinkish egg! My Swedish Flower Hen lays a tinted egg... white with a 'tint' of brown. It appears like an off white. Marans have a white shell with a huge amount of color coating. That's why they seem so rubbery and have a reputation for being hard to hatch. The chicks not only have to peck thru the shell, but also go thru that thick amount of coating! I'm not familiar with Gamefowls, but I know that any 'brown' egg layer really is laying a white shelled egg with whatever amount of brown coating they produce.

Green egg layers are laying blue shelled eggs with brown coating on them. And, depending on the breed of bird, your coating can be thick or thin. A blue shelled egg with a thick brown coating will be olive in color and a thin brown coating will be different shades of green.

there ends your lesson for the day! LOL

 

[valleychicks]

There are only two egg shell colors.....white and blue. So the pinkish tint you see INSIDE the shell is really white. The shell may be thin and you are just seeing the outside color thru the shell. The color of an egg depends on how much color coating is added to the egg as it exits the body. (My kids grossly call it Butt juice) So, your hen is laying a white egg with a small amount of brown coloring, thus you get that pinkish tint. I have an EE who lays a nice pinkish egg! My Swedish Flower Hen lays a tinted egg... white with a 'tint' of brown. It appears like an off white. Marans have a white shell with a huge amount of color coating. That's why they seem so rubbery and have a reputation for being hard to hatch. The chicks not only have to peck thru the shell, but also go thru that thick amount of coating! I'm not familiar with Gamefowls, but I know that any 'brown' egg layer really is laying a white shelled egg with whatever amount of brown coating they produce.

Green egg layers are laying blue shelled eggs with brown coating on them. And, depending on the breed of bird, your coating can be thick or thin. A blue shelled egg with a thick brown coating will be olive in color and a thin brown coating will be different shades of green.

there ends your lesson for the day! LOL

I just love learning about chickens! Any idea how to tell the difference between a rooster being an Ameraucana or and EE by looking at a picture? I have a beautiful rooster in with the gamefowl and EEs that I would love to know about. I could try and get a picture of him later today "again" if the sun ever comes out. You wanna' try and guess what he is?

 

[carcar80]

I just love learning about chickens! Any idea how to tell the difference between a rooster being an Ameraucana or and EE by looking at a picture? I have a beautiful rooster in with the gamefowl and EEs that I would love to know about. I could try and get a picture of him later today "again" if the sun ever comes out. You wanna' try and guess what he is?

I'll be watching. The EE/AM thing just blows my mind. Sometimes I think it depends on who's looking (though I know that's not true).. But it kills me to see "Am" stuff listed and open to see they lay green eggs... Which I thought was a no-no..

 

[valleychicks]

I'll be watching. The EE/AM thing just blows my mind. Sometimes I think it depends on who's looking (though I know that's not true).. But it kills me to see "Am" stuff listed and open to see they lay green eggs... Which I thought was a no-no..

What color are the Ameraucanas supposed to lay? I know I don't have an AM hen. Just want to know what the rooster is because the one that had him originally did have Ameraucanas. He had Jersey Giants and other breeds too.

 

[valleychicks]

RAIN AND MUD, MUD AND RAIN AND COLD, COLD...I AM SO READY FOR THE SUN TO SHINE AND IT GET A LITTLE WARMER! The rain and gloom is getting to me...

could you tell?

 

[Flowerbh]

Here goes: A true 'Ameraucana' has only 5 colors that are recognized by the 'Association". Look them up. Anyway, so if you had a 'true' black Ameraucana and a 'true' lavender Ameraucana and you bred them together, the chicks are no longer Ameraucanas but are now EEs. Why? Because to be 'true', those chicks need to grow up and have every chick they hatch look exactly like them....the same color....all of them. Once you mix two different colors of 'true' Ameraucanas, those chicks now have mixed color genes and could produce chicks of different colors. That means they are no longer a 'breed' by definition and become EEs because they will not bred 'true'. A breed by definition is a chicken who will hatch every single baby that will look like it's parents. Example: A Rhode Island Red is red, has yellow skin and should have a straight comb right? Every RIR will look just like the other. They all look alike. That is what a 'breed' is. EEs are not a 'breed'. They are mixes that lay colored eggs. That is why you get so many different colors/looks with EEs. Most people who have Ameraucanas really have EEs. If you go somewhere and you see a mom Ameraucana with chicks that are different colors, you know she is really an EE, even tho both her parents were 'true' Ameraucanas. To keep the 'true' going, you can only mate your 'true' black Ameraucana with another 'true' black Ameraucana and ALL their chicks, every single one of them, will be black. Does that help?

Here ends your second lesson for the day.

 

[carcar80]

Here goes:  A true 'Ameraucana' has only 5 colors that are recognized by the 'Association".  Look them up.  Anyway, so if you had a 'true' black Ameraucana and a 'true' lavender Ameraucana and you bred them together, the chicks are no longer Ameraucanas but are now EEs.  Why?  Because to be 'true', those chicks need to grow up and have every chick they hatch look exactly like them....the same color....all of them.  Once you mix two different colors of 'true' Ameraucanas, those chicks now have mixed color genes and could produce chicks of different colors.   That means they are no longer a 'breed' by definition and become EEs because they will not bred 'true'.  A breed by definition is a chicken who will hatch every single baby that will look like it's parents.  Example:  A Rhode Island Red is red, has yellow skin and should have a straight comb right?  Every RIR will look just like the other.  They all look alike.  That is what a 'breed' is.  EEs are not a 'breed'.  They are mixes that lay colored eggs.  That is why you get so many different colors/looks with EEs.  Most people who have Ameraucanas really have EEs.  If you go somewhere and you see a mom Ameraucana with chicks that are different colors, you know she is really an EE, even tho both her parents were 'true' Ameraucanas.  To keep the 'true' going, you can only mate your 'true' black Ameraucana with another 'true' black Ameraucana and ALL their chicks, every single one of them, will be black.  Does that help?

Here ends your second lesson for the day.

This is fantastic!! In all the times I've ever perused am threads, all I've gotten from them are people telling people, "that's an ee.." "That's NOT an AM.." Etc, without a reason why.

Thanks so much!!

So.. As long as the color is true, egg color (as far as blue or greenish) doesn't matter? Is that correct?

 

[Flowerbh]

This is fantastic!! In all the times I've ever perused am threads, all I've gotten from them are people telling people, "that's an ee.." "That's NOT an AM.." Etc, without a reason why.

Thanks so much!!

So.. As long as the color is true, egg color (as far as blue or greenish) doesn't matter? Is that correct?

People will argue with you. A true Ameraucana should lay a blue egg shelled egg with no coating. A chicken who lays a greenish colored egg is actually laying a blue egg shelled egg with some brown coating on it. According to the "Ameraucana lovers" there should not be any brown coating at all. That being said, I believe there are different shades of blue! LOL

 

[Flowerbh]

Now here is the kicker: Some breeds allow you to have different colors, Blue Laced Red Wyandottes can come in Blue, Black or Splash versions and they are all considered BLRW! Swedish Flowers come in all different colors and that's ok, too. They are still considered a breed. BUT NO, not with the Ameraucanas! They can only be those certain colors or they are not considered to be Ameraucanas! Weird. You can go to 'Ameraucana Standards' on Google and read about what is acceptable. I use to follow their thread, but they are so mean and hateful to people who post what they thought were Ameraucanas only to be really rudefully told their chickens suck! Me, I prefer my EEs and their much larger, more prolific eggs! And I get everything from beautiful bright blue, greens and pink and I get wonderfully colored chickens!

 

[valleychicks]

Here goes: A true 'Ameraucana' has only 5 colors that are recognized by the 'Association". Look them up. Anyway, so if you had a 'true' black Ameraucana and a 'true' lavender Ameraucana and you bred them together, the chicks are no longer Ameraucanas but are now EEs. Why? Because to be 'true', those chicks need to grow up and have every chick they hatch look exactly like them....the same color....all of them. Once you mix two different colors of 'true' Ameraucanas, those chicks now have mixed color genes and could produce chicks of different colors. That means they are no longer a 'breed' by definition and become EEs because they will not bred 'true'. A breed by definition is a chicken who will hatch every single baby that will look like it's parents. Example: A Rhode Island Red is red, has yellow skin and should have a straight comb right? Every RIR will look just like the other. They all look alike. That is what a 'breed' is. EEs are not a 'breed'. They are mixes that lay colored eggs. That is why you get so many different colors/looks with EEs. Most people who have Ameraucanas really have EEs. If you go somewhere and you see a mom Ameraucana with chicks that are different colors, you know she is really an EE, even tho both her parents were 'true' Ameraucanas. To keep the 'true' going, you can only mate your 'true' black Ameraucana with another 'true' black Ameraucana and ALL their chicks, every single one of them, will be black. Does that help?

Here ends your second lesson for the day.

Now here is the kicker: Some breeds allow you to have different colors, Blue Laced Red Wyandottes can come in Blue, Black or Splash versions and they are all considered BLRW! Swedish Flowers come in all different colors and that's ok, too. They are still considered a breed. BUT NO, not with the Ameraucanas! They can only be those certain colors or they are not considered to be Ameraucanas! Weird. You can go to 'Ameraucana Standards' on Google and read about what is acceptable. I use to follow their thread, but they are so mean and hateful to people who post what they thought were Ameraucanas only to be really rudefully told their chickens suck! Me, I prefer my EEs and their much larger, more prolific eggs! And I get everything from beautiful bright blue, greens and pink and I get wonderfully colored chickens!

Thank you for all the info!!! I knew you would know. I love my EEs! I can't stand people that are rude like the ones in the thread you were talking about. I will still try to get pictures of my egg shell and rooster to show you. I will look up the AM site you are talking about to see the different colors. Thanks a bunch!