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See, and it makes perfect sense to me ... events like what they have temporarily banned are the exact kind of place that has the potential to cause widespread harm. It only takes one bird in a setting like that to send the virus all over the place. And since there is no testing required for such events, this is (in my opinion) a reasonable safety step. We might not be where the cases are currently being found but it only takes 1 in the wrong setting. If they really had it in for backyard chicken folks they would have shut down all sales and there would be tightening of backyard flock restrictions instead of the broadening that we see in so many areas.
The N7 virus (AI lite) showed up on a single commercial chicken operation in GA and nowhere else in the state. So how does banning swaps and shows at this time have anything to do with preventing the spread of this virus? Sorry, I fail to see the connection. It's an overreaction by the GDA from my POV. The GDA even said so itself that the N7 virus probably was introduced to the commercial farm by an infected wild bird.

Also, there are a lot more points of contact with spreading avian influenza within a commercial chicken growing and processing operation then there is between individual chicken fanciers. If someone at this time is really concerned about their flock catching and spreading AI from a show or swap, then by all means that person should not attend, but don't unnecessarily ban such events for the rest of us. That should only happen if their is hard evidence that a serious strain of AI is a real threat. There are times when serious precautions should be taken, but this isn't one of them.

BTW, as I mentioned in a much earlier post, you can have great bio-security on your farm, yet a wild bird can introduce AI to your flock without ever landing.
 
See, and it makes perfect sense to me ... events like what they have temporarily banned are the exact kind of place that has the potential to cause widespread harm. It only takes one bird in a setting like that to send the virus all over the place. And since there is no testing required for such events, this is (in my opinion) a reasonable safety step. We might not be where the cases are currently being found but it only takes 1 in the wrong setting. If they really had it in for backyard chicken folks they would have shut down all sales and there would be tightening of backyard flock restrictions instead of the broadening that we see in so many areas.
now now, you know you can't just go throwing logical explanations and opinions around like that, some won't receive them well at ALL!!!
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BTW, how are you getting along?
 
The N7 virus (AI lite) showed up on a single commercial chicken operation in GA and nowhere else in the state. So how does banning swaps and shows at this time have anything to do with preventing the spread of this virus? Sorry, I fail to see the connection. It's an overreaction by the GDA from my POV. The GDA even said so itself that the N7 virus probably was introduced to the commercial farm by an infected wild bird.

Also, there are a lot more points of contact with spreading avian influenza within a commercial chicken growing and processing operation then there is between individual chicken fanciers. If someone at this time is really concerned about their flock catching and spreading AI from a show or swap, then by all means that person should not attend, but don't unnecessarily ban such events for the rest of us. That should only happen if their is hard evidence that a serious strain of AI is a real threat. There are times when serious precautions should be taken, but this isn't one of them.

BTW, as I mentioned in a much earlier post, you can have great bio-security on your farm, yet a wild bird can introduce AI to your flock without ever landing.
because all it would take, would be one person go buy a sick bird from some place like Collinsville, or just from a friend somewhere where it IS in some 'backyard' flocks, bring it back to summerville to the trade day (or similar), someone buy it and a few other birds there, and over the next few weeks get together with a few friends, neighbors or some kind of 'swap' like the ones they've typically had at some of the TSC stores, and boom there it is. Yeah, THIS particular case was a commerical grower, but not all the ones surrounding us have been.

just because it hasn't happened yet, doesn't mean it can't happen. One great thing about the fence we put around our yard last summer, is the canada geese that fill the ponds of two of our neighbors, that USED to come in the yard all the time, no longer come in the yard. I know they do fly over, and probably poopoo on their way, but at least there's not 20 or 30 of them at a time out in the yard spreading all that fertilizer and what ever else they could spread....
 
I agree with GAMarans. In my young adulthood I acquired some chickens from an animal auction. They were sick. I had many different breeds of chickens, raised from chicks at the time. Sad to say that was the end of my back yard chickens for many years. I complained to the auctioneer who owned the place. He let me know that it was my problem. I haven't went to places like that again and don't plan to.
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please feel free to share any and all of your experiences with us. That's what we're here for, to share experiences, learn from others and the experiences they choose to share.
 
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At the risk of seeming naive or even reasonable, I'm just going to point out that the GDA order is what it is. It might be overreacting or it might not be. All politics aside we have to do what's best for our own flocks. To be honest, I reconsidered my idea to order from Alabama just because I didn't feel I could respect a seller's views on violating her own state hold order. That's a personal choice---I've made decisions about where to source hatching eggs based on everything from a vibe to actual facts. All I'm saying is that most of us are doing the best we can with the knowledge & funds available to us.

It's Spring Break where I am & I'm getting temp & hygrometer updates from my parents while I enjoy the beach with my kids. Thrilled to be acquainted with y'all.
 
because all it would take, would be one person go buy a sick bird from some place like Collinsville, or just from a friend somewhere where it IS in some 'backyard' flocks, bring it back to summerville to the trade day (or similar), someone buy it and a few other birds there, and over the next few weeks get together with a few friends, neighbors or some kind of 'swap' like the ones they've typically had at some of the TSC stores, and boom there it is. Yeah, THIS particular case was a commerical grower, but not all the ones surrounding us have been.

just because it hasn't happened yet, doesn't mean it can't happen. One great thing about the fence we put around our yard last summer, is the canada geese that fill the ponds of two of our neighbors, that USED to come in the yard all the time, no longer come in the yard. I know they do fly over, and probably poopoo on their way, but at least there's not 20 or 30 of them at a time out in the yard spreading all that fertilizer and what ever else they could spread....

That's long-shot hypothetical. Besides, I don't know of any sick birds outside of the one that was tested on the commercial farm, and it only had the N7 strain which is so mild it is only detectable by blood test. So, where's the beef? If serious AI were found in the state, I would agree with the decision, but that's not the case. The state put the cart ahead of the horse on this one.

Anyway, I'm not going to worry about it or lose a wink of sleep. Take care.
 
See, and it makes perfect sense to me ... events like what they have temporarily banned are the exact kind of place that has the potential to cause widespread harm. It only takes one bird in a setting like that to send the virus all over the place. And since there is no testing required for such events, this is (in my opinion) a reasonable safety step. We might not be where the cases are currently being found but it only takes 1 in the wrong setting. If they really had it in for backyard chicken folks they would have shut down all sales and there would be tightening of backyard flock restrictions instead of the broadening that we see in so many areas.
Hi, How is your weekend Sat to be exact looking like? Need help? I can come around 10 am work for a couple of hours and run away with my turkeys, well after I pay of course

Put me on the list. Robin37. Lavonia GA.
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