ZIP TIES! What kind do you use?

Aart, no, haven't tried a shock collar, as I figured the pain wouldn't bother him if he really wanted something, due to his history. Also, how could I shock him if I can't watch him at all times? I have to sleep sometimes, and can't camp in front of the window 24/7.
Well, it's a training tool. Used carefully it can be quite effective. Might work well around your new chicken endeavor.
 
We have a set of shock collars for our 2 LGD dogs. We used them to train boundaries last summer. It was very effective. Our female figured it out that 1st day. The male took a couple day. They no long harass the horses down the street. Our male flokie can be hauling azz after something and if I tone him he will do a 180 and stop. That is cause in the beginning I'd tone then shock. We don't even need the shock anymore just the tone now.
 
I've been using the generic plastic ones for years and I haven't had to replace any as of yet. Really depends on your applications and you can just include inspecting them as part of your all around maintenance plan.
 
We have Invisible Fence for our dogs, and Buddy was the eighth dog that we had with it. He decided that killing chickens was worth running through it! We tried everything that IF had, and it wasn't enough. So, the Ft. Knox dog fence. It's either chain link or 2"x4" woven wire, or 4"x4" woven wire, topped by electric tape, and with the IF effective three feet inside, so dogs don't get to the fence at all. Overkill, maybe, but Buddy never got out again, and since then no other dog has escaped either!
Sadly, it's also made me lazy, so current dogs are NOT chicken safe. They are fenced.
Mary
 
Yes, Blackdog. The whole run will be covered with hardware cloth. Getting a shock collar will just be more money at this point, and may not work with this dog. Also, can't hot wire the run, as it will be 4' tall, and I would have to be getting in there to mix shavings, feed, water and handle the chickens. So that wouldn't be feasible in our situation. This dog has been loose on our property ever since we got him, so I don't feel right about locking him up at this point. He really does need the exercise, and I'd feel terrible, locking him up with our old German Shepherd free to roam. Looks like we'll just use the hardware cloth and maybe also 2x4 woven wire. Wish me luck!
 
Yes good luck.
Hopefully no neighbors dont have a flock.. We had a hard time training the lgd on their territory. The like to roam miles away. The $80 shock collars helped with the training. And since we got them two we haven't had a single loss to our flock.
I'm not trying to be negative. But any dogs that are in trained are not a good idea. Then throwing chickens in the mix. Well I hope you the best.

On a side note I have wrote this before. Our neighbors all cage up there chickens. And none of them have as nice as looking flock as our free range flock. Some of that is the coop and some is what we feed and the rest is the fact the eat whatever the want off the ground around the house. Not saying they can't have as nice of flock but the just don't.
Scott
 
I love stainless steel zip ties and used them to tightly attach cattle panels vertically and horizontally to emt conduit to make heavy duty trellises. They are the only thing holding it all together and these trellises don't budge with lots of weight on them even in heavy winds. They will never rot or degrade in the sun and I doubt I'll ever have to redo it.
Would you use metal zip ties to secure a fence to T-posts?
 

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