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A Cochin doesn't have white skin. The genetics for white skin is not in the breed. Yellow skin is recessive, so there is no hidden white-skin genetics in the Cochin breed. If you have white-skinned "Cochins" they would have to be a mixed breed regardless of their color. Shape and type...

The skin color is either white or yellow; it cannot be white/yellow. Slate legs are produced when there is a melanizing pigment working with white skin. The bottoms of the feet will be pink. The bottoms of the feet of a white-skinned bird are very different from the feet of a bird with...

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Thank you for posting these pictures. I intend to breed mottled Cochins and really know nothing about the genetics and how the color develops. May I have permission to post the bottom picture and the picture of the bird as a young adult on another Cochin thread? I have never raised a mottled...

Are you talking about the discussion of breeding frizzle to another frizzle? If so, a quarter of the chicks will be the very problematic frazzle which carry two copies of the frizzle gene. There are no real problems with the half that are frizzle--that is those birds carrying only one copy of...

I didn't think they ended up with less white. I would hope it would develop proper mottling where it is black as it molts, but I think the white is there to stay. Does anyone know the genetics of that white chest?

Do you think that bird above could ever molt out to a correct color pattern?

Neither of these birds have feathering down their toes and that is a disqualification.

I don't know what to say about the mottled. Mottled spots should be just the tip of the feather in a 'V' shape, not full white feathers. I don't see any feathers on that chick that are correctly marked. A mottled gets lighter with age, and there is so much white on that bird already.... The...

Try to get clear pictures of the feathers so we can see if they are laced or not. It will help to get clear pictures of the feathering on their necks. Self blues won't have darker feathering on their necks while blues will.

I know you knew the genetics and it was just a slip on your part. Others on this list don't and my reply was written for them. Thank you for not being offended.

Statistically, you should get 75% frizzles, of which 25% are double-copy frizzles (frazzles). The remaining 25% should be smooth. Genetically, it is Ff x Ff, which produces FF (frazzle), Ff, Ff (normal frizzle) and ff (smooth. I don't know how to make up a Punet's square on this web site...

Why do you say a "smooth that carries the frizzle gene"? Normally the frizzle is expressed because it is a dominant gene so you can see it expressed in the bird. There are modifying genes that inhibit the frizzle expression but I think it would be very rare to have a completely smooth bird...

I've decided that I want six-month olds. I don't think I can cull a Cochin. They really are too sweet. I can cull my Ameraucana cockerels (with some angst) but I just can't see me culling a sweet cockerel. I may just stick to paying a good deal of money for a show bird and not have to do any...

That's not quite accurate: there will be 25% chance of frazzles produced when breeding (normal) frizzles together. Ff x Ff = FF (one frazzle) + Ff + Ff (two normal frizzles) +ff (smooth feathered).

I couldn't get that link to work. Is there another address? I have found my two frazzles (double double copy frizzles) share some undesirable characteristics that I haven't seen written about in was scarce literature I have been able to find. For example, I think both birds experience pain...

What do you mean by "genetic deformities" associated with a frizzle?

When I bought my frazzles from a hatchery, they advertised that I should expect half frizzle, half smooth. That ratio is correct for a normal frizzle paired with smooth. There should never be a double-copy frizzle from that breeding pen, but I got three double-copy frizzles (frazzles) and only...

I forgot to add, get her a saddle to protect her from the rooster. If it is really bad, you might have to remove her from the rooster until she molts out all those broken feathers. If she is a double-copy frizzle, she should not be kept with rooster because her feathers will not ever...

Did you buy her from a hatchery? Is it possible she is a double-copy frizzle?