7th Annual BYC New Year's Day 2016 Hatch-A-Long

[ronott1]

I plan to in the future but at the moment I'm just getting started. I have successfully hatched a chick thanksgiving day and will post a pic but I must be sure of breeding success before I sell eggs to insure success of hatches for the customer. I will keep posting updates as I go along. I will be setting 32 eggs for the 7th annual BYC New Year's Day 2016 Hatch-A-Long. Good luck to everyone.

Sounds Good!

I will be looking forward to seeing the chick you hatched.

 

[ronott1]

Nope, that's the power cord going in the lid...
Upper right, the spot next to the turner motor is plugged...

Wow, got busy while I was busy, lol...

I thought so!

 

[Ravynscroft]

I thought so!

I have 2 of those bators, lol...

Got 35 Call eggs so far to set tomorrow, unfortunately my shipped ones got delayed and didn't make it today...

Guess they'll be going in a bit late...

 

[chicknlove]

Not to start a debate but this is what I was going by.. Is it different for ducks?? This is copied from SALLY SUNSHINES Incubation 101 page

VENTILATION (OXYGEN)
Ventilation is VERY important during the incubation process.
While the embryo is developing, oxygen enters the egg through the shell and carbon dioxide escapes. Oxygen requirements will increases during development and during hatching. Unobstructed ventilation holes, both above and below the eggs, are essential for proper air exchange. HOWEVER New Studies (Show Dr.Bramwell Discussion) have found that a slight decrease in oxygen the first 10 days (ONLY the first 10) creates a natural higher CO2 level which will naturally build in the incubator and add a little stress to young embryos which will force the embryo to survive and grow stronger, hatch earlier, hatch larger, grow stronger, grow faster and yeild more muscle mass at 6 weeks of age. PUT THE VENT PLUGS IN FOR THE FIRST 10 DAYS ONLY and then REMOVE ALL VENT PLUGS for the rest of the hatch! NOTE: When Lockdown occurs, vent openings are frequently restricted in an attempt to boost incubator humidity. Instead of helping the chick hatch, the chick is suffocated from lack of oxygen. Never decrease ventilation openings at hatching in an attempt to increase humidity. Increase humidity by other methods. If any vent adjustments are made, they should be opened more. Try adding a dampened sponge or towel to help boost humidity during lockdown.​

 

[Wickedchicken6]

Have 18 eggs saved so far for the NYDH. I think i need my head examined. Why do i want to do this when i know i will end up brooding in the laundry room ? I've heard of chicken math and i think it's got a lot in common with chicken sense. LOL. My hatch will be all BYM. OE's, EE's, BCM mix, australorp, D'Uccle mix.

Omg! I know exactly how you feel because I'm thinking the same thing!
Mine will be in my laundry room too!

I have 18 on right now (as of 3am this morning) for the December hatch-a-long and I've got 12 so far for this hatch-a-long!

OH THE INSANITY!!

I was waiting for the egg of one of the young pullets who just started to lay and she was SO upset with me. (Look at her poised to peck me..lol!)




I wanted to know what egg she was leaving for this thread's hatch so I could band her leg and keep track. All she left me was....the golf ball! (Seriously)

They need to ALL do that. It's their fault for enabling me in my addiction!!

(That's my story and I'm stick'n to it.)


It's a conspiracy. I bet your hens are in on it too!

It's their evil plan to take over the world...get us all addicted to do the dirty work for them.

(I think I'm overtired from my 3am egg setting)

 

[Sally Sunshine]

Not to start a debate but this is what I was going by.. Is it different for ducks?? This is copied from SALLY SUNSHINES Incubation 101 page

VENTILATION (OXYGEN)
Ventilation is VERY important during the incubation process.
While the embryo is developing, oxygen enters the egg through the shell and carbon dioxide escapes. Oxygen requirements will increases during development and during hatching. Unobstructed ventilation holes, both above and below the eggs, are essential for proper air exchange. HOWEVER New Studies (Show Dr.Bramwell Discussion) have found that a slight decrease in oxygen the first 10 days (ONLY the first 10) creates a natural higher CO2 level which will naturally build in the incubator and add a little stress to young embryos which will force the embryo to survive and grow stronger, hatch earlier, hatch larger, grow stronger, grow faster and yeild more muscle mass at 6 weeks of age. PUT THE VENT PLUGS IN FOR THE FIRST 10 DAYS ONLY and then REMOVE ALL VENT PLUGS for the rest of the hatch! NOTE: When Lockdown occurs, vent openings are frequently restricted in an attempt to boost incubator humidity. Instead of helping the chick hatch, the chick is suffocated from lack of oxygen. Never decrease ventilation openings at hatching in an attempt to increase humidity. Increase humidity by other methods. If any vent adjustments are made, they should be opened more. Try adding a dampened sponge or towel to help boost humidity during lockdown.​

ahhhhh chicknlove has done her homework!

Just remember to remove the plugs.

This is not telling everyone to have a vent free bator, this is telling those that have the styro bators with the red plugs to use them to help a better hatch!

But Sally, they were not put there for stressing the eggs, they were put there for elevation changes as a way to manage humidity.


A red vent plug is located on the top of the
incubator. This should be removed when the
incubator is used at altitudes greater than 6000
feet above sea level. The plug may also be
removed during or after the hatch if water drops
appear on the window due to high humidity. This
will help to dry the chicks and the incubator. If
removing the plug does not reduce the humidity
enough, it may be necessary to prop up the
top slightly, to facilitate drying. If so, be sure
to maintain proper temperature. Alternately,
the top may be removed quickly, and moisture
wiped from the windows to aid drying. Replace
the plug after chicks are removed

Are you aware of how many people have hatched through my suggested incubation methods Ron that are not even members of BYC? I really really dont want to argue, or act like I know it all. because thats not me, I like to genuinely help people. What I didn't want to do is make poor chknlove look like she started something between us, cause I really really do LOVE YOU! You are amazingly helpful to so many people here on BYC! Keeping the vent plugs in the bator is not going to cause so much dramatic stress as you act out and you know it and like I said, I already stressed the importance of pulling the plugs. And do you think you need to tell me what holes in the bator are for?

Seriously I wont debate Ron, I love you too much for this, I wont do this with you any more. I was too upset the other year about it.

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[BullChick]

Ha ha! You can't get to bed either!
I'm in bed, but on my phone.

 

[Sally Sunshine]

Ha ha! You can't get to bed either!
I'm in bed, but on my phone.

I Am still at the frog trying to say gnite lol gnite sweets

 

[Ravynscroft]

Who needs sleep anyways?

 

[ronott1]

Not to start a debate but this is what I was going by.. Is it different for ducks?? This is copied from SALLY SUNSHINES Incubation 101 page

VENTILATION (OXYGEN)
Ventilation is VERY important during the incubation process.
While the embryo is developing, oxygen enters the egg through the shell and carbon dioxide escapes. Oxygen requirements will increases during development and during hatching. Unobstructed ventilation holes, both above and below the eggs, are essential for proper air exchange. HOWEVER New Studies (Show Dr.Bramwell Discussion) have found that a slight decrease in oxygen the first 10 days (ONLY the first 10) creates a natural higher CO2 level which will naturally build in the incubator and add a little stress to young embryos which will force the embryo to survive and grow stronger, hatch earlier, hatch larger, grow stronger, grow faster and yeild more muscle mass at 6 weeks of age. PUT THE VENT PLUGS IN FOR THE FIRST 10 DAYS ONLY and then REMOVE ALL VENT PLUGS for the rest of the hatch! NOTE: When Lockdown occurs, vent openings are frequently restricted in an attempt to boost incubator humidity. Instead of helping the chick hatch, the chick is suffocated from lack of oxygen. Never decrease ventilation openings at hatching in an attempt to increase humidity. Increase humidity by other methods. If any vent adjustments are made, they should be opened more. Try adding a dampened sponge or towel to help boost humidity during lockdown.​

That is fine and may help hatch rates and may increase vigor but there is also the very real risk of forgetting to remove the plugs! That will cause a lot of problems, more than the small increase in hatch vigor. Using a cool down cycle has been shown to do similar things and will, on average allow one more chick to hatch per set.

It is a bit like the resting shipped eggs versus putting them into the incubator. There are pluses and minuses.

I have also seen some mis interpretation of Dr. Bramwell's discussions in the past. He may not be easily understood. Many quote a lecture he gave to say that you only need to put a rooster in with hens for a week to clear out the sperm of an old rooster. He did not say that but that is what many thought he said. He talked about percentages which went over the heads of most listeners.

The Genesis only has one plug so removing it will not change the CO levels much any way.