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  1. DaveK

    B.Y.C. Dorking Club!

    This was our own experience as well. It helps tremendously to have some experience with the line at hand or being developed. Things tend to seem much more clear than the somewhat floundering beginning years. I will say those birds that seemed completely finished out and the most impressive...
  2. DaveK

    B.Y.C. Dorking Club!

    Not the greatest pics as far as close ups but good enough to make me think that this could be a very nice cockerel with a lot of potential. Type for a gangly teen ager looks good. Color looks like a pretty typical silver duckwing in baby feather. Grow him out and let us see him and the pullets...
  3. DaveK

    B.Y.C. Dorking Club!

    I'll try to answer this as best I can. If I've missed the point/question just let me know. We learned long ago that our best results came from doing two things a little differently than many do. We don't feed starter. We start them out on a grower and from day one the grower crumbles are not the...
  4. DaveK

    B.Y.C. Dorking Club!

    Joe, depending on the environment you rear your youngsters in you and Karen might actually be on the same page as far as protein levels. 20% fed to a population that free ranges from the earliest possible age, as she does, isn't the same as 20% fed to growers who have fewer options for diluting...
  5. DaveK

    B.Y.C. Dorking Club!

    These seem to be very much what we all should be looking for. Great Dorking type and breed character. Thanks for sharing.
  6. DaveK

    B.Y.C. Dorking Club!

    These hens look like big, long deep bodied barges. Love seeing this.
  7. DaveK

    B.Y.C. Dorking Club!

    This would be exactly my own approach to lobes and as Karen has said - AFTER some of the essentials to a quality Dorking are better nailed down. The SOP is a guide to what we would like to see in the exhibition coop. It is not always a decent guide to managing a breeding program, especially a...
  8. DaveK

    B.Y.C. Dorking Club!

    Kim. a lot of defects will yield to selection which doesn't mean scrapping every bird that has them. Just keep reducing the incidence while improving over the long run. If you find that a bird is passing on a certain BAD defect to all or most of it's offspring you may elect to completely cull...
  9. DaveK

    B.Y.C. Dorking Club!

    If the birds are of good quality and the general impression screams DORKING!!! then show them and have fun. Judges are regular folks like the rest of us and not endowed with higher powers. So just like the exhibitors some will be more knowledgeable and familiar with any given breed than others...
  10. DaveK

    B.Y.C. Dorking Club!

    Coloreds used to be known in England but everything nowadays seems to be too much on the silver side and more along the lines of what we might call "dark" Dorkings. There's a lovely hen from England posted and discussed a ways back.
  11. DaveK

    B.Y.C. Dorking Club!

    Jwhip, I think Joe has pretty well hit the nail on the head. The project interest seemed in some cases to be greater than the actual variety interest. I doubt you could, for love or money, gather that many breeders or cuckoo Dorkings together again. Of course it was back in the '90s which also...
  12. DaveK

    B.Y.C. Dorking Club!

    The unfortunate thing about lack of control or something going on with one commercial source is a plethora of colors that are not and historically never were Dorking colors. Many of these colors exist on birds who would be suspect as pure Dorkings or at least Dorkings of any decent quality. They...
  13. DaveK

    B.Y.C. Dorking Club!

    Joe, I am LMAO! The first time we had Dorkings on the table my wife said "well, you can sure tell we're not eating the Cochins this time". We decided you eat a Dorking as is but make the Cochins in to something else where their stringy quality (but good taste) doesn't matter. There are earlier...
  14. DaveK

    B.Y.C. Dorking Club!

    Spring has sprung. Very cool.
  15. DaveK

    B.Y.C. Dorking Club!

    2 | Started: Nov 10, 2009 at 7:41 pm | Last Post: Oct 15, 2011 at 8:30 pm rtroxel Rudy Troxel http://sites.google.com/site/triangleacrespoultry/ I am not going to say anything negative about the YHF whites. I like them and am terrifically impressed. Folks have no idea how bad the...
  16. DaveK

    B.Y.C. Dorking Club!

    Karen, I understand and agree with what 007 is seeing and saying but I'm confused by your last post. Are you saying that your own birds don't mirror the type of "DarkMan" or the YHF whites? Long, broad and deep, fore and aft is what we should be seeing. As was noted by 007 when everything falls...
  17. DaveK

    B.Y.C. Dorking Club!

    Hey There, the "DarkMan" cometh to BYC. And he looks great. Thanks Karen. Kind of hate to lift a photo from a book but this lets so many others see him. As I have experienced and understand the color my own answer to your question is basically yes. I wonder how the striping is passed along...
  18. DaveK

    B.Y.C. Dorking Club!

    Karen, so glad to see that article by Craig Russell out where folks can actually read and make use of it. Is there any way you can post the photo of that "dark" Dorking I sent? Would give some who are still wondering a very good idea of what to look for in a cock bird as long as they remember...
  19. DaveK

    B.Y.C. Dorking Club!

    Joe, you've described the APA Standard hen in every way. I have seen one, back in the early or mid '70s and she was with a very proper colored male. Since then the stippled hen with straw shaft, black lacing and an overall impression of being very dark (think beaver brown stippled and dark...
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