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Danny had told me the same thing at least that long ago it seems. I do know that John Castagnetti's gold and silver duckwings had originally come from Danny. The pullets were a stippled silver duckwing pattern and were not silver wheaton. Fit in with John's own stippled dark reds just fine.

Gallo, I very much like the general impression your hen presents. Looks like she'd have the true lobster tail as well and this is often missing on some of the birds being worked with. The stock I was familiar with that had been inbred from Schmudde's stock were as you have described your Zook...

"Although that is not mentioned in the Standard, I prefer it." Gallo, a very wise individual living in the south said some years ago that the SOP could be as interesting for what it did not say as what it does. :-)

Quote: Is it weird to think that spurs can be beautiful? Those look like pretty nice shanks Saladin, what's the rest of the bird like?

Quote: I realize the lighting helps but this is a great example of that bright, fire colored shaded hackle. LOVE seeing that on a bird who looks like he'll mature nicely. I don't think I'm a color freak but when seeing something like this that we don't see enough of I'm glad I checked in...

Quote: I've wondered if a cross to spangled Asil might eventually accomplish a couple things, spangled color being one of them. Dave

Quote: Tim Bowsher lives about 10 minutes away from where I am sitting at work right now. As far as I know he still has the Cubalaya bantams. They were made at least in part by using a very, very small cock bird from Linda Bayliss. I believe he also used OEG but memory could be wrong. He has a...

Quote: That'd be them. Any ideas of what lines might be back behind them? I'm always interested in how those things work out.

There is a video on You Tube that shows birds with real Cubalaya breed type and character. You'd never confuse them with anything else. Fun to see. What are your original lines? I know the Baylisses sent at least a few birds out that way in years past and wondered if any of that might have made...

Quote: Actually, my own experience with the Castagnetti birds, both breeding them and seeing them at John's, was that he had dark, richly colored birds with stippled hens (not wheaton based) and striped hackles. Sort of partridge colored birds. Those hens were beautiful to my eye but something...

In regard to numbers. As many as can be well raised and still keep it fun is a great answer but not specific. And there may not be a specific answer. If a family is of high average quality, reproducing the same and with enough of what I call positive variation to allow for fine tuning and...

The two cock birds shown have, for my eye, the sort of beak we want to see on these guys. And the girls too. That short, boxy finch like beak just helps visually finish off the head and face, as though it adds expression to the birds. I don't know if there's a WHY to this being the desired beak...

Bruce Lentz. Craig mentions him as well as Corson and Rice. The only thing I know from conversations some time ago with both John and Craig is that Craig Russell's involvement with Cubalayas goes back a lot farther than his involvement with John Castagnetti's strain. Exactly who supplied the...

Quote: Dale Rice has been mentioned as having had Cubalayas that were well regarded by other good chicken men. I knew of him for his Sumatra and Hamburgs but knew nothing of the Cubalaya. Craig Russel might know plenty about them but I would suspect just because of geography if nothing else...

Quote: I'm there and added the White Faced Black Spanish to the list of ancient breeds. Brian's book is still not being offered even on Amazon at give away prices. If we knew that it could be safely mailed might like to take you up on your offer to borrow.

Quote: YIKES! That's one full blown introduction. Now that I'm over my shock and have figured out who we're talking to here I guess I'd better introduce myself. I'm Dave Kozakiewicz and I'm from the north - Michigan. I first became well acquainted with the Cubalayas through Linda Bayliss and...

Quote: Being close to but not all on the same bullseye so to speak is very much a Cubalaya thing but also exists in many other breeds, possibly most. Certainly there are breeders who walk up to a group of birds and ask "Are these old so and so's?" because they have a certain look to them...

Right about Saladin as far as I can tell. But then I'm either missing something or he is saying that he'd expect the same things from those matings that I would.

Quote: This is the same understanding that I have always had. Hens only carry one color gene though possibly with modifiers. So they are either silver or red but not gold. Gold is the interaction of inheriting both colors and that isn't going to happen except with a cock. It's what I...