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  1. Toni-Marie

    Ayam Cemani

    We are working on a standard now....TM
  2. Toni-Marie

    Ayam Cemani

    The people of Indonesia have been working on there birds for generations... Here in America ; We have only in the last 7 years got them here. And another importation recently. So with that said we have a little more work to do on them but are getting there..In another 2 years we will have them...
  3. Toni-Marie

    Ayam Cemani

    Mine also came from Switzerland some 7 years ago...That's just were you have to get them from if you dont want whats here already..
  4. Toni-Marie

    Ayam Cemani

    That explains it then..thanks...I know what asils are but not the dragon...They must be all black?
  5. Toni-Marie

    Ayam Cemani

    1. Why are you calling her Cemoni? 2. Did you buy her as a Cemoni?.3.Who did she come from?.4. There are only 4 or 5 people that have true Cemoni out there.She can be a Cemoni and have light skin but is a cull. Using those will make it harder to get the jet black like we need.Some times people...
  6. Toni-Marie

    Ayam Cemani

    May I add that Cemoni have black eyes and black bottom of the feet also...
  7. Toni-Marie

    Ayam Cemani

    True Cemoni come in various skin shades depending on several factors. Diet,Time of year, If a hen is laying. ect. My Cemoni have changed in color from time to time. Where as in tropical Indonesia where its warm all the time the color is stable. Also those birds have been breed darkest to darkest...
  8. Toni-Marie

    Ayam Cemani

    The price of the birds is not a problem. It's all the red tape that gets you. And you have to coordinate several Vets,county,state fee's among other things. I have a great friend there I've know for years that's been to my farm also and showed me pics of black skin birds also. He said if he had...
  9. Toni-Marie

    Ayam Cemani

    All I raised is pullets this year. The 1 I did raise I kept. My good friend has most of my flock because of health reasons I've been thinning down on my birds. Ohiki,and phoenix are my main focus. While I love the Cemoni I've only raise enough to keep them going. The flock is still as was when...
  10. Toni-Marie

    Ayam Cemani

    I have given freely a good many birds to people to try to get them out there. And not culls either. Why give? I don't need the money so people that really want them but cant afford them have a chance to raise these nice birds also.. "Carma"....I believe....TM
  11. Toni-Marie

    Ayam Cemani

    There really is no standard yet for the American Cemoni. Even Cemoni farms has Regular quality and best quality he calls them. If you raise enough birds you get culls..In every single breed there is. It's up to us to try to breed them as dark as possible. I've had mine going on 7 years now. Mine...
  12. Toni-Marie

    Ayam Cemani

    What ever she is she can still be breed to look like Cemoni. You already have the fibro so just breed a good many and cull out the pea comb and keep all the single comb ones and then start culling for color in the neck. Even in pure breed Cemoni you can get the rare birds that has a tad of color...
  13. Toni-Marie

    Ayam Cemani

    All a Cemoni is is a fibro black single comb bird. That's it. There fibro plus gypsy = a all black bird. Of course the feathers should be all black also. Now if they come with color there called something else but are genetically still Cemoni plus Birchen and brown red was introduce along the...
  14. Toni-Marie

    Ayam Cemani

    I am the Owner of Onagadori-South Feather Farm and Legally imported the Denizli,Tomaru, East and west German phoenix,Cemoni,Ohiki among a few other birds. All eggs were imported from Switzerland."Legally" Some in 2002 and some in 2007... Do your home work. Everyone knows me and my birds and can...
  15. Toni-Marie

    Ayam Cemani

    Love that pic!...
  16. Toni-Marie

    Ayam Cemani

    JFYI You can get a regular skin color chick form time to time but it is to be culled. It is on my web pages about the possibility. www.bantamlongtails.com . Not often but it can happen...Like the man at Cemoni farms he has been breeding these birds for a long time and works to get and keep them...
  17. Toni-Marie

    Ayam Cemani

    This is one of the purple faze skin tones I was talking about. You get several shades. Mine are not 100% black black becuse they are a land race fowl and have not been breed for that..With work you can make them that way but I like them as is. Natural....
  18. Toni-Marie

    Ayam Cemani

    Thank you Aubrey that was nice of you... This is a 4 mth little roo from this summers hatch...He had white when he was a chick untill just a few weeks ago. I wish I did get 100% pitch black...
  19. Toni-Marie

    Ayam Cemani

    Thank you very much. You know me also and I would never sell or give anything if I thought it were not right....Good to see you here....
  20. Toni-Marie

    Ayam Cemani

    So you have been breeding how many chicks and never got any with white? interesting....TM
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