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  1. dretd

    Cream Legbar Working Group: Standard of Perfection

    Sounds like you are off to a good start with your flock and its good to get opinions from multiple sources and do lots of research. Some folks seem to have lots of strong opinions and are very happy to share them with you, but its going to be your job of taking the good advice and pitching the...
  2. dretd

    Cream Legbar Working Group: Standard of Perfection

    Jill Rees is a prominent breeder and breed advocate from Great Britain and had some good luck with her birds at shows (I think she mainly showed females) so her birds are thought to match the breed standard more closely than previous imported lines which appeared to be more production lines...
  3. dretd

    Cream Legbar Working Group: Standard of Perfection

    You are welcome! My experience is that once they are pink, it is like a scar and it will always be pink. So they will only get more pink over time, unfortunately. Here is a before and after on a different roo who has seen two harsh winters. The first picture is during the first winter--not...
  4. dretd

    Cream Legbar Working Group: Standard of Perfection

    I am not one that likes to comment on photos to critique becasue both type and color can be off in a single still shot. I'm so very grateful when @fowlman01 comes to visit our thread as I learn so much from his expertise. I did however, want to comment specifically on the earlobes: pink being...
  5. dretd

    Cream Legbar Working Group: Standard of Perfection

    Rancher3535--good group of cockerels to choose from. I'm not going to comment on individuals, but give you some general food for thought. I am not sure if there are specific traits you are trying to work on this year (such as straighter comb, or reduced chestnut, or removing Ig or lower tail...
  6. dretd

    Cream Legbar Working Group: Standard of Perfection

    Hi ChicKat! Thanks for the plate and the link to the publication. I had read it before but had forgotten about it so the reminder was most welcomed. In it, Punnett talks about the leg color in chicks. He had said that the chicks have willow or otherwise tinted legs (not pure yellow) presumably...
  7. dretd

    Cream Legbar Working Group: Standard of Perfection

    Indeed there was someone on ebay selling Gold Legbars awhile back. They looked like a project to recreate the variety and seemed decent quality. Whomever it was got flamed pretty badly by some folks that said that there was no such thing A Gold Legbar any longer and she was trying to rip people...
  8. dretd

    Cream Legbar Working Group: Standard of Perfection

    Great reference. Looking at one 'created' ideal and comparing it to the Leghorn reference, what year would the ideal Legbar rooster match? Maybe 1905 or 1907(although the back is too U-shaped to match the Legbar SOP) ? I think this is a really good thing to look at because I know some breeders...
  9. dretd

    Cream Legbar Working Group: Standard of Perfection

    Good Morning Stake! Poor fella with the frostbite--it seems to be quite common in the boys. It doesn't hurt them at all but they don't seem quite a majestic without the points. I suspect many folks have that concern of limited genetic/inbreeding in the back of their minds. I some of us have...
  10. dretd

    Cream Legbar Working Group: Standard of Perfection

    In case anyone is interested, I thought it might be helpful to post (or re-post if it has already been put up) a link to the APA's Constitution and bylaws which includes the rules and process for acceptance of new varieties/breeds starting on page 8...
  11. dretd

    Cream Legbar Working Group: Standard of Perfection

    Speaking of the 2/2/2/2 rule... [as a reminder, as a part of the acceptance process, the APA requires certification that "two or more specimens from each class of cocks, hens, cockerels, pullets in each of the preceding 2 years at a show officiated by a licensed A.P.A. judge... (details...
  12. dretd

    Cream Legbar Working Group: Standard of Perfection

    I have found that it is really hard to get a good representation of color in photographs. The colors can become washed out or over saturated easily depending on the lighting and the camera. I have tried taking pictures of my cockerels and have gotten some shots that seem really too yellow and...
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