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  1. thaiturkey

    some think that gun laws are unconstitutional

    Quote: Sorry Thaiturkey.... I thought you were an American ex pat. My apologies. We have that same law in general here. Fire arms in a case in the vehicle, and 50 feet from the road before loading. Or something like that.. ON No problem. I didn't take it as an insult. I have Americans and...
  2. thaiturkey

    some think that gun laws are unconstitutional

    Quote: Shotguns in the UK have to locked into a rack in the back of a vehicle whilst in transit. You have to move very far from any road before you fire it and be careful which way you point the thing. As in the case you cite, it's seems very easy to get it wrong. And it's easy to lose your...
  3. thaiturkey

    some think that gun laws are unconstitutional

    Quote: I'm English, not American. I have been expressing my personal views about gun control. Posters have focused, inevitably on a mainly American forum I guess, on the continuing debate in the US. I have been contributing my honest opinions and have no axe to grind for or against the US. I...
  4. thaiturkey

    some think that gun laws are unconstitutional

    Quote: Your response was sarcastic. My question was nothing to do with countries. I asked what you would reply to a question about gun control. I am aware that there are disparate opinions in the US and that was the reason for the OP. There are different opinions in most countries, I would...
  5. thaiturkey

    some think that gun laws are unconstitutional

    Quote: So I give you a link to very extensive data an because it does not say what you want your going to say its not enough an go back to your wild guess. Thats probably the most extensive crime data you are going to find. So which side is not willing to see facts from the other side. "...
  6. thaiturkey

    some think that gun laws are unconstitutional

    Quote: Could you return to discussing this sensibly please without resorting to childish remarks about other countries? As you know, an entire thread was removed recently because of unwarranted and spiteful remarks about foreign armed forced. Perhaps some people would like to see the same...
  7. thaiturkey

    some think that gun laws are unconstitutional

    Quote: Then I feel very sorry for you. How much more lax could they be short of dispensing with the need for a licence? Geez. I'm still looking forward to you posting the link to those figures you showed us regarding the rates of violent deaths on various countries. It's looks interesting...
  8. thaiturkey

    some think that gun laws are unconstitutional

    Quote: They told us that in 1776 How'd that work out for you? It was before my time so I don't know. Please quote your source so that I can learn more about what it. In any case, I'm not a supporter of colonialism so I may see it from your point of view. However, I understand that the King...
  9. thaiturkey

    some think that gun laws are unconstitutional

    Quote: Then I feel very sorry for you. How much more lax could they be short of dispensing with the need for a licence? Geez. I'm still looking forward to you posting the link to those figures you showed us regarding the rates of violent deaths on various countries. It's looks interesting.
  10. thaiturkey

    some think that gun laws are unconstitutional

    Quote: You're wrong about Thailand's gun laws. Anyone here, other than a foreigner and minor, can get a licence from the police and buy a hand gun, shotgun or rifle. The official line is the familiar one that you are allowed to protect your home so not everyone can carry a gun legally in his...
  11. thaiturkey

    some think that gun laws are unconstitutional

    Quote: I'm inclined to agree with that. A reasonable response would be to accept that there is opposition to guns for all and discuss a solution. However, I'm reading the defensive attitude of some as a sign that they know their argument in favour of gun waving is weak. Guns mean death...
  12. thaiturkey

    some think that gun laws are unconstitutional

    Quote: Surely you're not serious? Let me answer by turning it back to you. When since 1918 did anyone win a war with only handguns and rifles? I'm sorry if my previous words failed to carry my meaning clearly. I'll ask you also if you think it's realistic to believe that the US may be...
  13. thaiturkey

    some think that gun laws are unconstitutional

    Quote: But none of that justifies walking around with a gun tucked down the back of your trousers. If you don't like a government, vote it out, don't shoot it out. If the penalties for violent crimes are insufficient, vote to get them changed. Make a stink on a website or in the newspapers...
  14. thaiturkey

    some think that gun laws are unconstitutional

    Quote: I want to answer these points in two parts.. It might be cuckoo cuckoo, but an alarming number of Americans are becoming dissatisfied with the way our government is being run. The government is enacting policiy that the majority of us don't want.. Vehemently protest, and the only non...
  15. thaiturkey

    some think that gun laws are unconstitutional

    Quote: 1. Yes, it is a protected right, here in the USA. Our form of Government and freedom was an experiment. This gave us wiggle room if it became corrupted and decadent.. 2. I am not sure who decides it's time. Revolutions just sort of happen. I know that sounds horrible but it's the...
  16. thaiturkey

    some think that gun laws are unconstitutional

    Quote: I spin what you say around..(Because in reality it is the way it is.) We are the aggressor and have not been able to win a war since WWII. We rely heavily on air support and so on. Why did we not win. Korea, Vietnam, Iraq 1, Afghanistan, Iraq 2?????????? Because:::::: When the will of...
  17. thaiturkey

    some think that gun laws are unconstitutional

    Quote: When I mentioned mass killings I was referring to the rather too frequent examples of nut jobs walking into schools, McD's or around towns shooting anyone they can see. From memory I think that in each case the guns were owned legally. Please post the source of your statistics. I wold...
  18. thaiturkey

    some think that gun laws are unconstitutional

    Quote: Thank you for the compliment. I don't mind you disagreeing with me. This is a discussion and that is how we learn about other people's views. I suppose that I may have a different view because I lived for many years in a place where it was very, very unlikely that some one would...
  19. thaiturkey

    some think that gun laws are unconstitutional

    Quote: Define mass. Violent death rates in the USA are about 18.57 for every 100 thousand people. Estonia 70.76 Hungary 39.01 Mexico 21.74 Japan 17.34 Germany 17.00 Taiwan 15.00 Spain 8.97 ............... We have more citizen owned guns than any other country but we are about the...
  20. thaiturkey

    some think that gun laws are unconstitutional

    Quote: When we get down to practicalities, it's a dilemma, isn't it. You can argue in many different ways but none is a perfect solution to the problem. I do sense, though, that some of the gun lobby arguments are based on myth and outdated thinking and come from people who just want to have...
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