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I'm sorry about your babies. That's terrible to loose them all. 2 eggs started! But I think they already quit. I saw some veining start yesterday. The problem with totally detached air cells is that the chalaza is usually broken and when the embryo starts it can't attached itself to anything. The veins now look like a condensed little rectangle. I've never even had totally detached air cells even start. So this was a first for me. But the problem I find with not turning adequately is that the CAM will not develop properly and then they will be late quitters. Sometimes the damage done by shipping just can't be reversed.Again, for me I will NEVER risk loosing babies and I can tell you 80% did kill them, why because when I first started out I read all over the internet, humidity should be this temp this, blah blah blah and one factor it stated 80% humidity, welll what I didn't read is this was for WET bulb not what i was using. It was HORRIBLE to see 10 babies make it all the way to lockdown and then each one booom boom boom died off. it was horrible. I think the best thing for deattched don't even shift them. Just let them sit there completely still, I have read some people have had success but guess what. When I asked them ok tell me exactly what you did, There responses STOP, this tells me, they are fibbing. Yeh alll of a suddenly then can't tell me exactly what they did to help deattached air cells. KIND FUN FUNNY HUH? I have will have to experienment, I wonder if you put a tiny PIN hole at the top of the shell and leave that egg there for a couple of days if that will help get those Deattached air cells to STICK. HUMMMMM... I LOVE EXPERIMENTING with things..
That is scary! Glad she made it! I had a chick pip into membranes once and luckily the blood clotted. After she got out (on her own) there was a big blood clot I the egg.I had a chick pip through their own blood vessel during my first hatch. More blood than I cared to see. Then she quit working on her shell and after 24 hours I helped. The blood in the veins (what was left of it) had all receded and I got her out fairly quickly but there was blood pooled in the bottom of the shell and the membrane was coated in it. The inside of my incubator looked like a crime scene. She dragged a little nub of yolk sac around for a day or so before it fell off. She was also the smallest chick I had ever seen. A week later she is rambunctious and sassy, and catching up to her siblings in size. I guess my point is that without help I don't think she would have made it out of her shell. It remains to be seen if she lives a long healthy life or not, but I am glad I helped her.
X2I wouldn't help yet if he just pipped this morning. If it looks dry use a Q tip to moisten the membrane you can see. Don't get water up his nose!
Love the pictures!! They are great!Great. Second longest assist I've done. They're growing like weeds. If I had to guess dads are my welshies and moms are khakis or/and Cayuga. @Debs Flock can u post a pic for me??? Please??? Emerald and Clover...
Good pics! I need to start taking some pics when I assist! I love all your photos. They are very helpful.
I have studied these charts and I can never figure out what positions my malpositions are in. All I know is I've never lost one! And I usually have 1 or 2 in every batch and 60% of the time they have zipped on their own, fortunately.Have no idea how true this is: [COLOR=B42000] [/COLOR] Source: http://www.thepoultrysite.com/artic...hatchery-practice-examining-the-hatch-debris/ -Kathy
At least you were able to figure out where the beak was! I read this article on condor eggs and some are very valuable. So I was reading that there is this machine that can pick up exactly where the beak is located inside the egg on malpositions through wave lengths. Once they locate the beak, they drill a safety hole into the egg and do a full assist. I just found that so interesting.
I'm sorry but it does look like it quit. The veins should still be as prominent as they were when you saw them last week. Looks like they are receding.Ok here are 2 more pics of my trouble egg. There still are slight veins, im nit really seeing movement, maybe slight shifting. I can see his shape. Humidity is still good 65-70, temperature 100F. Im misting and turning. Any other ideas?
I hope someone else chimes in but call ducks can have trouble pipping because of their short beaks. I would make a tiny safety hole in the ones that have been pipped so long. Maybe these guys can help...@RavynFallen@LacrystolHey- I don't know whether to help my ducks. I a hatching call duck eggs and today is the due date- they are all moving and can hear the occasional cheep and they internally pipped about 29-30 hours and their beaks are nowhere near the top of the egg to start internally pipping?! What shall I do? Shall I make a small hole?! Any advice and plans would be amazing !!
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