••• INTRODUCING: The New Advanced BYC Chicken Breed Database & System

[Nifty-Chicken]

marcym, once we get more breeds added to the new system we'll replace the current breed pages with the new pages. This should make it much easier to find.

MoodyChicken, thanks for the note on the quotes. It is on the list to fix.

 

[Msbear]

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Great job! That's a really interesting fact about the tails in bantam vs large... didn't know that... and it totally makes sense! I always wondered why they were different. One thing though, I would definitely add when the editing feature is available that the males can be, but aren't always, quite aggressive. Just a fair warning for people looking to get into the breed.

It is really good and great pics but there are a lot of spelling mistakes in the "personal experience" part which needs to be corrected when the editor is available and the entire history portion is directly copied from the internet which might be a copyright infringement.

eta: another thing to consider would be to add a caption box beneath each picture we upload. We could write in "cochin cockerel with three pullets" "bantam cochin eggs with standard sized eggs" etc.

 

[shay20]

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Great job! That's a really interesting fact about the tails in bantam vs large... didn't know that... and it totally makes sense! I always wondered why they were different. One thing though, I would definitely add when the editing feature is available that the males can be, but aren't always, quite aggressive. Just a fair warning for people looking to get into the breed.

It is really good and great pics but there are a lot of spelling mistakes in the "personal experience" part which needs to be corrected when the editor is available and the entire history portion is directly copied from the internet which might be a copyright infringement.

eta: another thing to consider would be to add a caption box beneath each picture we upload. We could write in "cochin cockerel with three pullets" "bantam cochin eggs with standard sized eggs" etc.

no i did not copy it from the Internet, i got all the info from magazines. and typed it in, I spelled check that area but not my personal area i had that page sitting on my computer for hours try to figure what pics to put in, i finished it late so i was tired.

I mean how does one learn things. You get info from somewhere, but like I said I did not copy it from the Internet.

 

[Msbear]

I copied your first two sentences and pasted it in the search engine and a ton of things popped up including this from wikipedia... notice their last two sentences. It is your words exactly. Copyright infringement is a serious thing and can get BYC into some serious trouble. You learn things by reading several sources of info. and compiling your own information with using your own words. You can use the same facts but they need to be from your own words.

eta: Someone help me but I believe you can use sources like wikipedia word for word but you must give that source credit.

[edit] Bantam version
The Old English Game Bantam is the bantam version of this breed. The Old English Game Bantam is one of the most popular bantams. This is especially the case in the United Kingdom, where it has its own specialist shows. The Old English Bantam is similar to the Old English Game in that it has long legs and it is fairly muscular. However unlike the Old English Game the English Game Bantam is docile and not aggressive. The Old English Game Bantam makes a good pet for children. The bantam was not developed from the larger sized old English but rather from other barnyard bantams of the same area. This explains their lack of length in the sickle feathers that you see in the standard sized O.E.

You can pick out the good parts and avoid copyright infringment by stating something like, "the bantam old english were not developed from their larger counterpart like most bantam breeds. They were created from other bantam chickens. This explains the differences between the bantam and standard version such as the length in the sickle feathers. The sickles in standard OE's are considerably longer."

 

[shay20]

Well I apologize for it, But again I promise you I did not copy it from the internet.

If I knew that the sentences That I got all my magazines were copied I would have not wrote them in.
So I guess I will just have it deleted.

 

[Msbear]

Copying from magazines is also copyright infrigement... any source that you copy falls under this law. You don't have to delete your page... just reword it

For my breed page, I just googled, "history of the rosecomb" and picked out the facts I wanted to use and worded it in my own way... this is an easy way to do it. Don't sweat it... it is an easy mistake to correct.

 

[shay20]

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I already sent a pm to delete, i cant reword it because there is no edit to fix it.
But oh well, If no one does that breed that i will do it again.

 

[Nifty-Chicken]

Msbear is correct, it doesn't really matter if the medium is a magazine, the internet, a newspaper, a book, etc. If the item falls under copyright protection and is copied word for word, it could be in violation of copyright law.

This article is helpful when trying to understand the complexities of US Copyright Law:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/US_copyright

A few parts I found very helpful:

"An important limitation on the scope of copyright protection is the idea/expression dichotomy: While copyright law protects the expression of an idea, it does not protect the idea itself.

The distinction between "idea" and "expression" is a fundamental part of U.S. law, but it is not always clear. From the 1976 Copyright Act (17 U.S.C. § 102):

In no case does copyright protection for an original work of authorship extend to any idea, procedure, process, system, method of operation, concept, principle, or discovery, regardless of the form in which it is described, explained, illustrated, or embodied in such work.

A paper describing a political theory, for example, is copyrightable; it may not be reproduced by anyone else without the author's permission. But the theory itself (which is an idea rather than a specific expression) is not copyrightable. Another author is free to describe the same theory in his or her own words without violating copyright law, and in fact need not even give credit to the original author (although failing to do so may be considered plagiarism, an ethical transgression). Courts disagree on how much of the story and characters of a copyrighted novel or film should be considered copyrightable expression."

"Facts are considered synonymous to "ideas" or "discoveries" under this law and are not copyrightable. By extension, a compilation of uncopyrightable facts is also uncopyrightable... The protection is limited only to the selection and arrangement, not to the facts themselves, which may be freely copied."

 

[Msbear]

Many of us, including myself, aren't familiar with the history of the breeds we keep and will rely heavily on info. from other sources. Maybe we can have a source caption or something of that nature at the bottom of our page where we can give credit???

 

[Wynette]

I did copy mine from the website of a friend; I did get permission...but I can most definitely change the wording a bit when we are able to edit if that's more acceptable.