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[sealer39]

BTW. Hudson feeds are on sale right now at Chewy if anyone needs it.
https://www.chewy.com/hudson-feeds-poultry-feeds-starter/dp/254434

 

[R2elk]

I do but they don’t carry a quality game bird feed. The only one that carries it has a brand that looks like trail mix with 11% or 13% protein. I can’t remember the name brand right now but I know I don’t want it. I’m already buying a crap load of stuff for my cats from Chewy so I might just add Hudson feeds to the list. I read that their feed has niacin and other nutrients that Purina does not have listed in their ingredients.

This is the reason I haven’t gotten into quail earlier. I made an attempt to find quail feed a couple years ago and couldn’t find it so I gave up.

Purina has niacin in their feed as do most manufacturers. It is not an ingredient that Federal regulations require them to show on the ingredients tag. You can find the niacin content of feeds by contacting the manufacturer and requesting the information. Proper quail feed is often sold as turkey or gamebird feed.

 

[sealer39]

Will they special order for you? My feed store special orders the Purina Startena for me.

Don’t know yet. I was trying to narrow down what I should or should not get before I started talking to the feed stores.

 

[R2elk]

Don’t know yet. I was trying to narrow down what I should or should not get before I started talking to the feed stores.

When my local feed store closed ( owner retired), I was prepared to become my own feed store. I did not have to because Sutherland's Lumber who also carries feed was more than happy to start carrying a proper turkey or gamebird starter.

I did check with Murdoch's and the other local feed store. Both refused to even special order it for me. Obviously I send my customers to Sutherland's for their feed.

 

[sealer39]

Purina has niacin in their feed as do most manufacturers. It is not an ingredient ths Federal regulations require them to show on the ingredients tag. You can find the niacin content of feeds by contacting the manufacturer and requesting the information. Proper quail feed is often sold as turkey or gamebird feed.

Ok. This first pic is what I saw on their website earlier. I went back and saw that it is included as an ingredient (second pic).

 

[FloorCandy]

I do but they don’t carry a quality game bird feed. The only one that carries it has a brand that looks like trail mix with 11% or 13% protein. I can’t remember the name brand right now but I know I don’t want it. I’m already buying a crap load of stuff for my cats from Chewy so I might just add Hudson feeds to the list. I read that their feed has niacin and other nutrients that Purina does not have listed in their ingredients.

This is the reason I haven’t gotten into quail earlier. I made an attempt to find quail feed a couple years ago and couldn’t find it so I gave up.

I used Hudson feeds 24% gamebird I believe(whatever their 24% is) for the last year and had no problems. It’s pellets not crumble, and my birds vastly prefer the pellets. I only switched for cost reasons.

 

[RoosterML]

Ok. This first pic is what I saw on their website earlier. I went back and saw that it is included as an ingredient (second pic).
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That Purina feed in fine I was just wondering if you couldn’t find something better for less.

 

[sealer39]

It’s good to know I have a few options now.
@RUNuts Purina does state that niacin is included in its starter feed. Have you determined it is deficient in niacin which is why you supplement?

 

[RUNuts]

It’s good to know I have a few options now.
@RUNuts Purina does state that niacin is included in its starter feed. Have you determined it is deficient in niacin which is why you supplement?

When I first started with quail, I had a couple cases of wry neck. Nothing scientific, just opinions from the wonderful world of BYC. Since that time and feeding the same Purina Game Bird and Turkey Starter, I've used Rooster Booster and a probiotic blend with niacin and haven't had wry neck issues. I am a small hatcher and this observation/opinion is worth what you paid for it.

Beyond incidental evidence, I can prove nothing. Like a couple people mentioned, it couldn't hurt.

During some other discussions on quail health and maybe in this thread, there were some scientific papers referenced that pointed that quail needed increased amounts of niacin for health over other birds. Others may be able to post a link. Another opinion was that niacin degraded in the feed faster than other nutrients. I like avoiding wry neck.

 

[R2elk]

When I first started with quail, I had a couple cases of wry neck. Nothing scientific, just opinions from the wonderful world of BYC. Since that time and feeding the same Purina Game Bird and Turkey Starter, I've used Rooster Booster and a probiotic blend with niacin and haven't had wry neck issues. I am a small hatcher and this observation/opinion is worth what you paid for it.

Beyond incidental evidence, I can prove nothing. Like a couple people mentioned, it couldn't hurt.

During some other discussions on quail health and maybe in this thread, there were some scientific papers referenced that pointed that quail needed increased amounts of niacin for health over other birds. Others may be able to post a link. Another opinion was that niacin degraded in the feed faster than other nutrients. I like avoiding wry neck.

I am pretty sure that your wry neck problems did not come from the feed. I never have wry neck problems with any of my poultry. I do not give rooster booster or supplemental niacin. I also don't try to save defective hatchlings.