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Tesumph said:
Nah I’m not trying to discourage you from getting a purebred. Just throwing in my $.02. Some people buy a $3000 dog and wonder how they end up with an unsocialized monster, as if they bought a puppy from God himself. lol.

Triumph and Tesa’s lines are specifically cancer free. One of them (I think Tesa) had a mild history of hip dysplasia but that’s it. Triumph still has thickened knees, elbow dysplasia, and of course his neck/back pain.
I guess it’s a case of the devil you know vs. the devil you don’t, but I personally wouldn’t let that be a huge deciding factor in adopting vs. buying. Invest in pet insurance if that’s a big source of anxiety for you.

I would absolutely get another purebred golden in the future. Triumph is a huge emotional rock for me and I can’t imagine a house without him.
Funny enough, he is a big anchor for Theia as well. She is drastically less anxious in his company.
Hubby thinks it’s hilarious.. both of his girls are a moody, nervous wreck. I say both of my boys are way too hairy and fart too much, so there.

my brother isn’t unlucky, he’s just a shitty trainer. He thinks “dominating” a dog and scaring the piss out of it will make him listen to the “alpha.” Don’t get me ****ing started.
The result is a very confused and testy young shiba living in the same house as a newborn. Playing with fire.
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Making a dog scared of you only makes the dog retaliate more. It's just like people who kick roosters or beat roosters and think that it will help. It only makes them more aggressive.
 
Tesumph said:
Nah I’m not trying to discourage you from getting a purebred. Just throwing in my $.02. Some people buy a $3000 dog and wonder how they end up with an unsocialized monster, as if they bought a puppy from God himself. lol.

Triumph and Tesa’s lines are specifically cancer free. One of them (I think Tesa) had a mild history of hip dysplasia but that’s it. Triumph still has thickened knees, elbow dysplasia, and of course his neck/back pain.
I guess it’s a case of the devil you know vs. the devil you don’t, but I personally wouldn’t let that be a huge deciding factor in adopting vs. buying. Invest in pet insurance if that’s a big source of anxiety for you.

I would absolutely get another purebred golden in the future. Triumph is a huge emotional rock for me and I can’t imagine a house without him.
Funny enough, he is a big anchor for Theia as well. She is drastically less anxious in his company.
Hubby thinks it’s hilarious.. both of his girls are a moody, nervous wreck. I say both of my boys are way too hairy and fart too much, so there.

my brother isn’t unlucky, he’s just a shitty trainer. He thinks “dominating” a dog and scaring the piss out of it will make him listen to the “alpha.” Don’t get me ****ing started.
The result is a very confused and testy young shiba living in the same house as a newborn. Playing with fire.
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Oh yeah, no, I figured. I just like discussing. :D

But yeah, I’ve noticed a lot of people just expect a dog to be perfect but it requires a lot of training, no matter where you get it from. Some people think the dog should just be fully trained by 6 months or a year old and that always annoyed me. It takes constant work and reminding and they’re not fully trained and calm till like 2 or 3 at least and even then some dogs still aren’t. Of course, they can be mostly trained and/or very well trained and calm pretty young but even the best trained dog will still make mistakes. It’s still a baby. Heck, they still make mistakes even as adult dogs!

I’ve never understood people that think a dog will just magically be good and born knowing things then wonder why it’s not and why it doesn’t lol

And of course I’ve seen $3000 have health issues.

SIL knows someone with a lab who’s basically a dwarf. It’s back legs never grew.

And wow that’s awesome!! I didn’t realize there were cancer free lines. Maybe I will have to look for one if I go that route. That and longevity in the lines. So many never make it past 10 :(

But yeah, there’s definitely pros and cons to both. My thing with most rescues, like actual rescues not CL dogs, is most of them are so expensive these days. :(

And of course the potential issues but most of them are great.

That’s awesome. :love that’s a big part of why I want a Golden. They just seem a tad bit “softer” and more in tune with their handler than Labs. Not that Labs aren’t great but Goldens seem to have that extra cuddly thing going on and desire to please just because :love

And :lau that is awesome!! Libby is like that for Franklin. He’s much more confident when he has her around. :love

And :lau :gig :lau at that description

And oohhhh boyyyyy.... I know those kinds of trainers. My brother used to be one. Still somewhat is but much better now. But he sends a lot of conflicting messages. One second he’s allowing the dog to do something, next he’s getting mad at it for the same thing.
 
FortCluck said:
My mixed pit was supposed to be euthanized because she was the runt of the litter and she was born with a deformed foot.

The breeder was bottle feeding her because all of the littermates were picking on her. when the breeder brought her to the vet, the vet suggested euthanizing her because she wouldn't thrive. The breeder had an appointment to euthanize her the day after we got her. We heard her whining when we went into the breeders home and my husband asked to see her. We didn't know the whole story about her having her last day on Earth. We handed the breeder the money for her and took her instead of her healthy littermate.

Our vet told us she had to meet a certain weight requirement by her next appointment or he would recommend euthanizing her. She gained that weight plus more. She only weighed 2.5 lbs when we got her. She was the size of a Chihuahua puppy.

Now she's happy and healthy even with he deformed foot. I call it her funny foot.
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One of our champions was a runt as a puppy that didn't sell. We kept him because we didn't cull healthy animals..He ended up 200 lbs of muscle and won best in show in Chicago. We used him for breeding because of the slower growth. His pups also had the slower growth.
Never know how they will grow up. Had the biggest at 8 wks ended up as a runt
 
FortCluck said:
Making a dog scared of you only makes the dog retaliate more. It's just like people who kick roosters or beat roosters and think that it will help. It only makes them more aggressive.
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Yeah for sure! Violence begets violence. And then they wonder why the dog bites them later. :rolleyes:
 
Molpet said:
One of our champions was a runt as a puppy that didn't sell. We kept him because we didn't cull healthy animals..He ended up 200 lbs of muscle and won best in show in Chicago. We used him for breeding because of the slower growth. His pups also had the slower growth.
Never know how they will grow up. Had the biggest at 8 wks ended up as a runt
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Oh wow that is awesome!!
 
FortCluck said:
Making a dog scared of you only makes the dog retaliate more. It's just like people who kick roosters or beat roosters and think that it will help. It only makes them more aggressive.
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Depends on the animal
I bought a St Bernard 30 yrs ago,as a puppy, that had a mean streak. I grew up training and showing them. I even took him to a trainer. They said put him down, which is what my parents said too. I found if I grabbed him by the neck and held him against the wall so his feet didn't touch, he would behave for six months. I never beat him. If a smack doesn't work beating isn't going to either.
My dad bought a horse that was high strung, if he was yelled at he was frantic. Had to use a hackamore instead of a bit too. Could not lead him anywhere, but if you were riding he would go anywhere...safe or not.
My horse could be lead anywhere. .. very calm, unless we were heading home. He jumped the pasture fence several times. He would hold the bit. I learned how to stay on. He wouldn't ride anywhere he didn't think was safe.
 
KDOGG331 said:
Btw here’s some very interesting articles on the spay neuter thing. These are specifically focused on retrievers but still. I think the last one is more general. And in giant breeds, the recommended age is even later. At least 18 months.

https://www.ducks.org/hunting/retriever-training/spaying-or-neutering-your-retriever

https://www.purinaproclub.com/resou...ly-neutering-and-spaying-in-golden-retrievers

http://www.akcchf.org/news-events/news/health-implications-in-early.html
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I haven't had Jolene spayed yet. People frown at me for it but she's not even a year old yet.
 

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