$138,000.00 Ladies! $138,000.00!!!!

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Yes, yes, and yes, to most of what she said. One thing, too, that a lot of people seem to forget is NO marriage can be 50/50 or 100/100 every single day. There will be day it goes 90/10 or 20/80 or any ridiculous combination thereof. I have HORRIBLE PMS....try something awful to keep it under control but there are days I am an awful person....I don't even like me. Can't imagine how hubby puts up with me. There are days he is stressed and snaps at me for nothing. Same thing. It is all about give and take.....a marriage is not worth it unless both parties are getting something in return but that doesn't mean every day will be equal. I am certain the vast majority of the women on this thread who are being accused of "male bashing" would not trade their husband for the world....some might, but everyone needs to vent sometimes and if they really hated them, open forum would probably not be where they would choose to admit it.
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Very well said! If we didn't vent we'd take it out on the hubby when he gets home! So this is a good healthy thread!
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Have you tried extra Omega Fatty Acids for your PMS? I read about it the other day and I ordered some from Puritans Pride the same day! I'll try anything! I hate feeling like I should just crawl in ahole and bury my mean self for a few days every month! When It hits I tell hubby that I can't stand to be around myself today so you might as well go enjoy yourself at Walmart. Men don't understand the hormone thing. I tell him its like wanting to claw your own eyes out of your head becuse they hurt fro crying for no reason and you can't stop the way your feel and the horrible mood you're in. You hate yourself. Oh and I'll let you know if the pills help any! We may have to have an "end our PMS thread" sometime!

And I know what I'll be doing when the kids grow up and go away! By then we should have this a working farm and we'll be raising livestock and dogs and with everything that breaks around here we'll never be finished!
 
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No, never heard to try it, but thank you. I will!!! As you said, I will try ANYTHING!!!! What i tell my hubby is, "I am on PMS, if you want me to rip your head off, say something to me. If you want me to chew it up and spit it down the remaining hole in your neck, say something I MIGHT take wrong." Sad thing is, it is VERY close to true.
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The people you are describing are not men, gentlemen nor even guys. I have a word for them but I can't use it here.

I do too, for both the men and women and if I used it I'd get kicked off. It's funny I saw this thread after sitting through a meeting at school with a young man and his mother and father who are in the process of divorcing, and they chose the meeting as an opportunity to sling mud and slander each other at every opportunity. I took the child out and came back in and let them both have it, with both barrels! My Principal backed me up thank heavens but they did complain to my Superintendent, but after hearing what they did she backed me up too. I had parent/teacher meetings last Thursday, and at least 7 parents decided to unload on me what horrible parents the other one was who wasn't there.
People wonder why I've been single since my son was 6 weeks old? With all of that who needs my own drama lol,,
I have 2 sets of friends who have stayed friendly with thier ex-spouses, I hold them up as examples to a lot of people I know who just can't keep their heads out the rectal areas!
This venting can be good as long as no one gets ugly.
 
WriterofWords, my ex used to do that to me and I let him. Drove my mom nuts. I tried to walk the high road and it HURT.

Now I have model 2.0 and have an awesome hubby.

And mr perfectdad (a legend in his own mind) can't make our kids do squat and is seeing that maybe I was a better parent than he ever gave me credit for. And I still bite my tongue until I can say nice things, still walk that high road. It still ticks my mom off but she can see that I now have ALL the control and I only had to fight with myself.
And at MY house the kids do chores, homework, and talk to me respectfully (mostly. they are teens after all). When they aren't I take away all the luxury items the ex uses to buy their good behavior
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I try and stay on the high road too, and boy it can be hard! I'm so happy to see so many have found that person (2.0, or 3.0 etc) and that it works for them. As for now I'm happy with my son and my animals and all the students that I have and have had in the past. If I decide to brave it again I'll have a questionaire ready and they have to be able to identify at least 2 kinds of hammers, 3 kinds of chickens, 7 breeds of horses and know the last 3 most popular video games among young men. And know how to operate my power equipment.
 
Yup. Know where you're coming from. I was certain I would never EVER marry again. Friends laugh at me about that now. And I was very happy while single, despite being perpetually without $.

I told some lonely newly divorced friends of mine, "Just wait, as soon as you have a routine you enjoy, friends to hang out with, and are totally contented with your life... THAT is when the perfect guy comes along and screws it all up."
 
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Do you know, we all love our husbands. We just sometimes need to vent because maybe we had a hard day and we're tired.

I would love to see the husbands get on here and complain about us ladys. Maybe we could fix some of the things we do wrong. But I don't know what that will be, we are almost perfect, no just kidding.
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OH MY, I think I know what STHU means. Not nice.

Won't happen.

1. We know better than to do such things.
2. The retaliation of the women on this board would make your head spin.

Marriage is to build each other up, not tear each other down. (in public or private)

And yes, STHU does mean shut the h*ll up. Like I said, these kinds of threads push my buttons. Men get beat down enough every night on prime time, in the media and on the streets, what message is that sending to our boys?

Think about it, if we harp all the time that men are irresponsible, lazy, stupid, etc etc what will they grow up to be? I think you get the point.

I agree. In a lot of ways I was scared to death of marriage because of things like this. I, seriously, would be crushed if my wife talked about me the way many of you have talked about your husbands.

Making your life work in harmony with another person is hard. Impossible with things like this thrown into the equation. You can call this venting but it's just complaining. I think complaining always makes the situation worse, always. And the impact is exponential if you have validation. Sometimes you need to talk things though, it should be done privately with a close friend.
 
Men are from Mars and Women are from Venus. There will forever be differences and how we talk them through will be different too.
If we all knew exactly how our spouses talked about us when we aren't around it would be great, but we don't and we never will until you have someone record it trying to be a "friend". That is what happened to me and the spouse I thought said nothing but good about me was doing the exact opposite and saying some pretty ugly, private things about me.
Tom I hope you are right, in fact I pray you are because I'd like to think the best of your wife.
 

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