You are not making sense, Spend less time writing and more time getting to know your birds. You will get to actually develop a working understanding of them, not just a very idealistic concept you currently have.
I'm sorry if you don't understand it, but please refrain from telling me what to do and making baseless assumptions about my animal husbandry.
I've spent years raising chickens, being very involved, I'd bet far more involved than even you. They were my full time hobby for the first few years I had them and due to serious health problems I did very little work off the property at that stage; I spent hours each day with them, every day of the week, for the first few years of starting my flock, and I made careful observations the whole time, and experimented with them. I wanted to quickly achieve an absence of human-aggression in them and it worked.
My opinions on them are based in my experiences with them, and when I have a theory I state it as such, not claim it's some universal rule. I understand my flock being so peaceful is indeed idealistic to some, utopian even (lol) but it's also reality. It's real, it's achievable, just because you've used other methods and not achieved the same thing doesn't mean I'm building castles in the sky here.
I've stated my point of view, you've stated yours, we disagree, and that's ok, but persisting with derogatory comments towards me or my methods certainly won't change my mind and it certainly won't help the OP.
At some point accuracy most be involved. Management in a way that people and birds are not harmed requires sound knowledge. Some of what Chooks is stating is definitely not based on such and gives less experienced folks inclinations to have unrealistic expectations about about behaviors of their roosters and chickens in general.
This doesn't make sense, lol.
I never claimed my peaceful flock was achieved through not harming any animals...I always suggest culling aggressive ones as the quickest and surest way to a peaceful flock, so I'm not sure why you're making the statement you are.
I've been completely transparent about my belief that culling human-aggressive birds is the best way to go, so you're right, I don't manage my human-aggressive birds in a way that doesn't involve not harming animals. The aggressive ones die. It's that simple. I'm not sure you can describe knowledge supposedly fixing the human-aggression issue as 'sound' when it takes more than the average lifespan of each chicken to 'manage' ---- not even 'fix' --- human-aggression, and the aggression is present with each new generation. I was talking about permanent fixes, and I think the OP was too, whereas you've not given sufficient info to make sense of your methods, and all the info you have given makes it sound like a complete failure in actually stopping human-aggression. But, who knows, maybe this is only the assumption one makes due to lack of information. If you've got some kind of plan for permanently getting rid of human-aggression I'm sure the OP would like to hear it, and so would I.
Your examples of your own flock haven't suggested any other methods work permanently. 10 years of managing any human aggressive birds is not feasible nor safe for most of us, especially not those with free range birds and children. (Incidentally you never told us if you keep yours caged which is a relevant factor.)
Have a good day, and perhaps spend less decades managing each aggressive individual and find out how to stop human aggression in your flock completely before out-of-hand dismissing my methods. If all this conversation has to offer is more attacks on my knowledge or my methods, then don't expect me to reply again.
Best wishes to all.
