4th Annual BYC NYD Hatch-a-long

It looks like I have some catching up to do. The boss was in so I couldn't follow along.
I had a duh moment 3 weeks ago. I was sick of looking at my almost empty incubator so I set 150 eggs, many of which were over 2 weeks old. Well, I put 107 in the hatching trays last night. Even if half of them hatch, what will I do with all those chicks? Nobody buys chicks here in the winter.

Hmmmmm, how many were langshans????? ;)
 
His name is Tuesday and he is a beast isnt he lol , Im not positive how much he wieghs exactly becase he only goes to the vet when he is sick he avrages about 15 pounds I think , he is a big sweet heart and extreamly floofy and soft , him and my son have a sibling relation ship and actually pick on each other some lol






 
His name is Tuesday and he is a beast isnt he lol , Im not positive how much he wieghs exactly becase he only goes to the vet when he is sick he avrages about 15 pounds I think , he is a big sweet heart and extreamly floofy and soft , him and my son have a sibling relation ship and actually pick on each other some lol






What cute pics! It looks like him and your son really love each other.
 
My stockpile grows... and the ducks are starting to lay lol
YAY Duckies!!!
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Being sent 12+ White Bresse hatching eggs from chickentows that I'm going to set for the NYD hatch along!!!!!!
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another breed I need to look up to see what it looks like lol I cant have any I cant have any I cant I cant!!
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Here is my broody Icelandic Ida with her five chicks. There are two browns... one with a white breast, a small light chipmunk and two blondies... I imagine those came from Cloud's eggs. I think the browns came from Rose's eggs and perhaps the light chipmunk came from Ida or Whitney. The only two that I am certain that the roo was frisky with were Cloud and Whitney, and of course Icelandics are like a box of chocolates, you never know what you are going to get.
Awww our "Smart Eagle" looks EXACTLY like her and lays the most beautiful eggs!!


is this the color of your eggs too? so pretty, like my Nana's old Kitchen! <3

Grrrrrr! Stupid computer!
Mine/me has done this for the past three days!!! frustrating!!
It looks like I have some catching up to do. The boss was in so I couldn't follow along.

I had a duh moment 3 weeks ago. I was sick of looking at my almost empty incubator so I set 150 eggs, many of which were over 2 weeks old. Well, I put 107 in the hatching trays last night. Even if half of them hatch, what will I do with all those chicks? Nobody buys chicks here in the winter.

THATS AWESOME!! thats alotta eggers and peeps!!!
Don't hate me, but I'm going to post in this thread even though my eggs should be hatching tomorrow, not Jan 1. I just see a lot of activity here and I need some advice pronto. Not trying to spam, I just wanna save these babies.

I had 3 fully formed silkies die in shell this morning. (one pipped 3 days late and unzipped halfway then died, the other 2 didn't even pip internally, but they did absorb their yolk sacs). I've been reading reading reading. I'm pretty sure my temperature is OK. I've now learned that my eggs' air cells look way too small, so my humidity must have been too high this whole time! I've had it at 60%ish all through incubation. The air cells look like they should at day 7, whoa! There are fully formed embryos wiggling around in there.

So..... what can I do? Are they doomed? I removed the water. Now the humidity is at around 30%. Should I decrease humidity gradually, or all at once? Will a sudden drop in humidity hurt them? How can I assist them with moisture loss without hurting them?

Is the danger of "shrink-wrapping" the babies only after they've pipped?

I have a little computer fan in there, should I turn it off? Or maybe keep it on but turn it off during pipping?

I'm going crazy over here, somebody please tell me what to do, or tell me who I can ask or what I can read. These aren't particularly valuable chicks, I just hate for them to develop fully and just die when they're so close to making it. Poor little guys.

I'm sorry I hijacked the hatch-a-long thread...
I have some info on this issue saved in my notes from a thread .... this is the link to the notes and below is a paste from them....
https://www.backyardchickens.com/a/hatching-eggs-101



Sites I will refer to:
Intervention: Helping Your Chicks Hatch
https://www.backyardchickens.com/t/9316/intervention-helping-your-chicks-hatch


After the chick has made a hole in the shell, it stops pipping for three to eight hours and rests. During this time, it is acclimating its lungs to the outside atmosphere. After the resting stage is completed, the second stage of pipping begins....

The chick begins to turn slowly inside the egg. As it turns, usually counter-clockwise, the cutting edge of the chick tooth continues to chip away. In two to five hours, the chick has made about three quarters of a turn inside the egg. As the chick progresses in its movement around the shell, it begins pushing on the egg cap (large end). Squirming and struggling, the chick works feverishly for about 40 minutes pushing at the cap. Finally with a vigorous shove, the chick breaks free from the shell, still wet and panting.
When the chick is freed completely from the shell, it lies still. Its energy has been virtually exhausted, and it is extremely tired. After a rest of some few minutes, the chick begins to rise to its feet and gain coordination of its muscles. Within a few days the egg tooth, its usefulness over, will disappear. (http://chickscope.beckman.uiuc.edu/resources/egg_to_chick/procedures.html)


see this membrane? this is close to what your looking for! thin thin veining and not so much blood!



If you feel he may be SHRINK wrapped (only YOU know what your cells, weight, and Humidity have been) maybe you should start reading how to help a chick...... I have watched a ton of videos on youtube and its done all the time with no problems and HAS SAVED many HEALTHY chicks!! PROOF on all those videos!

"Shrink wrap" vs. "Sticky chick"? https://www.backyardchickens.com/t/491421/shrink-wrap-vs-sticky-chick#post_6242987
Shrink wrapped: before pipping, both inner and out membranes dry tight around the chick; caused by too little humidity throughout incubation

Sticky chick: after pipping, the liquids dry becoming glue-like followed by concrete-like; caused by too little humidity during lockdown

Wet sticky or Swollen: the chick is swollen with water or simply very wet and sticky; caused by too high humidity throughout incubation

Drowning: the whitish outer membrane is dry while the clearish inner membrane is wet, binding the chick; also caused by too high humidity thoughout incubation

*Chicks experiencing more than one of the extreme conditions can exhibit multiple issues.
*These same issues can also occur during natural incubation, under a brooding hen.

https://www.backyardchickens.com/t/491421/shrink-wrap-vs-sticky-chick#post_6242987


Float Testing, Checking Egg Viability For Late Or Overdue Hatching Give Eggs A Full 24 Hrs Overdue Before Float Testing. It Works On All Bird Eggs- Period! Takes Very Little Equipment Or Time To Do And Is Easy To Perform.
https://www.backyardchickens.com/t/383525/float-testing-checking-egg-viability-for-late-or-overdue-hatching

Eggtopsy: What happened to my egg?
https://www.backyardchickens.com/t/363717/eggtopsy-what-happened-to-my-egg-graphic-pictures


check out
Trouble Shooting Failures with Egg Incubation @ http://msucares.com/poultry/reproductions/trouble.html


http://www.poultry.msstate.edu/extension/pdf/troubleshooting_incubation.pdf


This is also a great pdf with pics: paste link in browser search:
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=early%20emrbyo%20death%20%20incubation&source=web&cd=4&cad=rja&ved=0CDsQFjAD&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.thepoultrysite.com%2Fdownloads%2Fdownload%2F171%2F&ei=UllaUMXFHsmrygGnjoHICw&usg=AFQjCNGgYxCBYwBex31MS5w2McdnpH1zbw

ALSO this PDF at the last pages have a chart that shows what could have happened.... http://gallus.tamu.edu/library/extpublications/b6092.pdf



What do the veins look like? Are they still at the point that they haven't internally pipped? I'm an interfering brat, so typically, if someone's having issues, the veins are absorbed, and they're internally pipped and late hatching, I'll start the pipping for them. I've had great success with this and have only lost a few this way (maybe five total in all of the years of hatching and at least 100 that I've helped. Sometimes, if they're very late, they'll have curly toes and might not be able to get back on their feet because they started to develop while crunched up in the egg. :/


On another note, who knows about Easter? We celebrate it with a family feast, but I'm not particularly religious, and always thought that it was a specific Sunday in April (like the second or third or something), but looked it up and apparently it's March 31st this year? Can someone enlighten me to the "rules" of when Easter comes?
x2 I also am an interfering brat, only because eggs cost a fortune shipped as you loose most : ( Also in that link above is a bunch of links, pics and videos of helping to hatch, also what they actually do when hatching and a timeframe.... Its EXTREMELY important to remeber that one you have cleared breathing, only damp mebrane every two hours, and LET THEM ALONE, they have alot to absorb!! and the pic above shows how a membrane should look at hatch!
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BAD!

So so very ticked right now.... Got my only hope on hatching eggs for NYD today from silkies. Stupid guinea jumped up and knocked the entire carton down on the ground. They ALL broke D;
OH no!!!! will you have more???? maybe CL or on here, sorry mine arent fertile yet : (
New coolerbator fine tuning for NYD Hatch along.

Since yesterday tryiing to fine tune the new diy coolerbator
1.)I've added 3 air holes, no discernable effect on temps.
2.) Had DH try to lower the water heater thermostat to no avail (yes I get a wafer would have been better, but he bought this one so I gotta use it for now, will upgrade in future...)

Still the temps were going to 105-106 b/f auto-shut-off

3.) Bought 40 Watt bulbs (decided the 60 watt was just way overkill for size of cooler)

Running w/ 40 Watt it took about 4 hrs to heat up from 60F but is now at 103 steedy , w/ airholes open (argh!)

I'm going to put a masson jar of water in to simulate eggs to see if that changes things.
Getting a little frantic to get this working (ie not over heating) to set eggs Tue!

I do have a dimmer switch to start playing w/ but I'm suprized the 40Watt bulb only made a 2 degree diff. eekl!

FeyRaine
I feel for you, and I seen you know what you need to do! sorry but its the ONLY thing that worked and we moved that thermostat closer and closer and closer until it basically touched the bulb and still a 2 degree variance.... seriously do suggest a wafer sorry... but fingers crossed for you!!
It's impossible for them to ship me eggs to my house before te eleventh... Right?
of course you can get eggs, you should ask on Craigslist too!
 
Getting excited & anxious all at the same time!! I'm watching for the mailman like a hawk, waiting for my eggs to show up... Hoping my eggs for the swap made it to their destination unharmed...

Maybe it wasn't a good idea to do the NYD hatchalong as my very first incubator hatch... Or maybe I should just relax and enjoy it instead of stressing!
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I did my very first incubator hatch with the NYD last year, it was fantastic. Always folks to keep you laughing, lend advice and share in the ups and downs; you'll love it!!!!
 

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