4th Annual BYC NYD Hatch-a-long

[champer]

Thanks Jessiey and mlmddh, it's part of hatching I guess. The others are looking good, so that's encouraging.

 

[Sally Sunshine]

I have read every post, through the hatch, I think I've read most of the literature, and yet I have had the most bizarre thing happen today!
We had an egg partially zipped, it had been several hours, and all the mayhem around it, it was still peeping and moving inside the shell.

A couple of chicks jumped up on the partially zipped egg and it CRACKED IN HALF!!! The chick didn't get up, and the shell was still partially attached.
They were running over it, pecking at it, and eventually it cleared the shell, and started moving.

I noticed that it seemed to have a "thin bag of water" attached to it. Later as it tried to move around, I realized it was fluid under it's skin and the skin appeared to be sagging and there were no feathers on that part of the skin. It was like a water balloon, boy the skin is thin! It has been hours, and this poor little thing is still struggling to move, rests more than anything. also that leg is outstretched, the other is curled underneath it's body.

We removed all the chicks to give it a chance. Later, another chick hatched, it has been recovering so it has not bothered the injured chick.

Has anyone ever encountered this? seen this, heard of this? I am not holding out much hope...but tomorrow may bring a miracle.

Thoughts?.....
Thanks, Stephanie

you could try searching Omphalitis in chicks, have you ran with high humidity or have you done the dry incubation methods?
How is the peepers today?

 

[FeyRaine]

UPDATE - sorry if this isn't well typed, only 2 hrs sleep

Checked at about midnight
Egg B had launched itself out of the half shell but had a bad hernia and was still very attached w/ visable 2 veins w/ red blood & some obvious blood in the membrane in the shell. I knew better than to mess w/ it and just let it be, I keep watch...

Around 1-2 am
Having "hatched" Chick B finally had the stregth to start trying to hold its head up and try to stand, all the thrashing and peeping got
Egg W excited and W got its head , neck & 1 wing out of the membrane but was then completely exhausted, I had to move its upper body back onto wet towel a couple times b/c it was sticking to the burlap which I figured would not help matters at all.

By 4 am
Chick B was walking somewhat (slightly curled toes) still draging an attached shell etc. it got hobbled by this cord & when I unwrapped it the cord went from pink/white back to fresh red blood! not good but it was still a closed system w/ the membrane & didn't keep filling so I let it be for a few min. then I pressed it direct pressure w/out breaking it, I pushed it as close to the eggshell as poss. and held it long enough that the part under my finger tip when clear then I left it still just in case so it couldn't leak out.

At this point Egg W became Chick W by launching itself out of the membrane & off the half shell. No hernia and the cord was clear and broke away quickly but the chick was completely exhausted and I was not very optimistic for it.

4:30 I had to get a couple hrs sleep

8:30 Chick B & Chick W still alive (HURRAY)
B still was trailing the eggshell but the cord was shriveled so I pressed it for a moment then cut it - zero blood : )
W was actually able to sit up and walk now, excellent progress : )

Both are dry but not fluffly - their down looks like stringy hair plastered to them, I guess I will have to wash them, but I'm not going to stress them that way any time soon, they aren't sticking to other things or each other so it isn't a problem.

Egg L -- I tapped and for awhile I heard nothing, was about to give up on it when I heard a flutter, a tapp and a peep <-- note a TAP none of the 3 I helped ever Tapped they could not reach the eggshell w/ their beaks! L can tap, so I think it may be able to pip on its own, I'm hoping so. The first peep from it was at 9pm last night, 12.5 hrs ago now, but it is MaranxMaran dark egg, and I'm just going give it another several hrs before I consider doing a pip for it. I would REALLY like a natural hatch to happen if at all possible!

So about the chicks : )
Chick B --
BlueCM over ? Orp likely or poss. Ameraucana based on egg shell color
Feathers looked black wet, but dry they are 90% a rich SILVER grey so BLUE woohoo there are a few blonde strands on the wing tips and chin, and poss. a few black so maybe actually SPLASH ? Skin is pink.
Also, these eggs were the exact same size, but B is HUGE almost twice as long head to butt, and feet 2x the size of W

Chick W (The Love-child egg)
Mutt parents on both sides
Appears all black , feet have pink toes, skin is pink

Also DH is convinced they are both male, based on Great-grandpa's day 1 sexing method that has something to do w/ if they have a tiny comb looking area, which vanishes in a day or so but eventually returns as a real roo comb, apparently judging this is all relative and based on decades of looking. While pullets of course would be best, LIVE is all I really care about at this time.

I'll try to get some pics. later today...

 

[Sally Sunshine]

2 chicks hatched overnight, and I have 1 in the brooder. 1 more has pipped and is working on hatching. The one in the brooder had a huge piece of shell stuck on his back and he wasn't drying off, so we helped get the shell off and put him in the brooder.

 

[Sally Sunshine]

Quote: x2

 

[Sally Sunshine]

my first chick ever Yayyyyyy.

 

[missydcpc]

She doing better now?

No...I don't think she's going to make it...there's blood in the shell....

 

[Sally Sunshine]

UPDATE - sorry if this isn't well typed, only 2 hrs sleep

Checked at about midnight
Egg B had launched itself out of the half shell but had a bad hernia and was still very attached w/ visable 2 veins w/ red blood & some obvious blood in the membrane in the shell. I knew better than to mess w/ it and just let it be, I keep watch...

Around 1-2 am
Having "hatched" Chick B finally had the stregth to start trying to hold its head up and try to stand, all the thrashing and peeping got
Egg W excited and W got its head , neck & 1 wing out of the membrane but was then completely exhausted, I had to move its upper body back onto wet towel a couple times b/c it was sticking to the burlap which I figured would not help matters at all.

By 4 am
Chick B was walking somewhat (slightly curled toes) still draging an attached shell etc. it got hobbled by this cord & when I unwrapped it the cord went from pink/white back to fresh red blood! not good but it was still a closed system w/ the membrane & didn't keep filling so I let it be for a few min. then I pressed it direct pressure w/out breaking it, I pushed it as close to the eggshell as poss. and held it long enough that the part under my finger tip when clear then I left it still just in case so it couldn't leak out.

At this point Egg W became Chick W by launching itself out of the membrane & off the half shell. No hernia and the cord was clear and broke away quickly but the chick was completely exhausted and I was not very optimistic for it.

4:30 I had to get a couple hrs sleep

8:30 Chick B & Chick W still alive (HURRAY)
B still was trailing the eggshell but the cord was shriveled so I pressed it for a moment then cut it - zero blood : )
W was actually able to sit up and walk now, excellent progress : )

Both are dry but not fluffly - their down looks like stringy hair plastered to them, I guess I will have to wash them, but I'm not going to stress them that way any time soon, they aren't sticking to other things or each other so it isn't a problem.

Egg L -- I tapped and for awhile I heard nothing, was about to give up on it when I heard a flutter, a tapp and a peep <-- note a TAP none of the 3 I helped ever Tapped they could not reach the eggshell w/ their beaks! L can tap, so I think it may be able to pip on its own, I'm hoping so. The first peep from it was at 9pm last night, 12.5 hrs ago now, but it is MaranxMaran dark egg, and I'm just going give it another several hrs before I consider doing a pip for it. I would REALLY like a natural hatch to happen if at all possible!

So about the chicks : )
Chick B --
BlueCM over ? Orp likely or poss. Ameraucana based on egg shell color
Feathers looked black wet, but dry they are 90% a rich SILVER grey so BLUE woohoo there are a few blonde strands on the wing tips and chin, and poss. a few black so maybe actually SPLASH ? Skin is pink.
Also, these eggs were the exact same size, but B is HUGE almost twice as long head to butt, and feet 2x the size of W

Chick W (The Love-child egg)
Mutt parents on both sides
Appears all black , feet have pink toes, skin is pink

Also DH is convinced they are both male, based on Great-grandpa's day 1 sexing method that has something to do w/ if they have a tiny comb looking area, which vanishes in a day or so but eventually returns as a real roo comb, apparently judging this is all relative and based on decades of looking. While pullets of course would be best, LIVE is all I really care about at this time.

I'll try to get some pics. later today...

OMG Fey!! Stress, so sorry you need to go through all this!!! Heck you will be a pro from this point on! awwwww I use veterycin utter and navel blue spray gel on navels... I have heard iodine is good too... I am adding links to the article in regards to Mushy chick / Omphalitis/ navel-yolk sac infection but havent compiled it all yet...

I was hoping to see some pics on here of bad navels but seems no one is posting any??? So I will wait until I have one or two and then get it all together and add it to the article... In bottom of the article I did put some stuff about navels but it still should have some more....

this is why I started using a little cup to put the egg in, so they cant push out too soo, as it is seen alot in assisting... and infection of course can happen quicker in assists because the egg is opened.

 

[champer]

UPDATE - sorry if this isn't well typed, only 2 hrs sleep

Checked at about midnight
Egg B had launched itself out of the half shell but had a bad hernia and was still very attached w/ visable 2 veins w/ red blood & some obvious blood in the membrane in the shell. I knew better than to mess w/ it and just let it be, I keep watch...

Around 1-2 am
Having "hatched" Chick B finally had the stregth to start trying to hold its head up and try to stand, all the thrashing and peeping got
Egg W excited and W got its head , neck & 1 wing out of the membrane but was then completely exhausted, I had to move its upper body back onto wet towel a couple times b/c it was sticking to the burlap which I figured would not help matters at all.

By 4 am
Chick B was walking somewhat (slightly curled toes) still draging an attached shell etc. it got hobbled by this cord & when I unwrapped it the cord went from pink/white back to fresh red blood! not good but it was still a closed system w/ the membrane & didn't keep filling so I let it be for a few min. then I pressed it direct pressure w/out breaking it, I pushed it as close to the eggshell as poss. and held it long enough that the part under my finger tip when clear then I left it still just in case so it couldn't leak out.

At this point Egg W became Chick W by launching itself out of the membrane & off the half shell. No hernia and the cord was clear and broke away quickly but the chick was completely exhausted and I was not very optimistic for it.

4:30 I had to get a couple hrs sleep

8:30 Chick B & Chick W still alive (HURRAY)
B still was trailing the eggshell but the cord was shriveled so I pressed it for a moment then cut it - zero blood : )
W was actually able to sit up and walk now, excellent progress : )

Both are dry but not fluffly - their down looks like stringy hair plastered to them, I guess I will have to wash them, but I'm not going to stress them that way any time soon, they aren't sticking to other things or each other so it isn't a problem.

Egg L -- I tapped and for awhile I heard nothing, was about to give up on it when I heard a flutter, a tapp and a peep <-- note a TAP none of the 3 I helped ever Tapped they could not reach the eggshell w/ their beaks! L can tap, so I think it may be able to pip on its own, I'm hoping so. The first peep from it was at 9pm last night, 12.5 hrs ago now, but it is MaranxMaran dark egg, and I'm just going give it another several hrs before I consider doing a pip for it. I would REALLY like a natural hatch to happen if at all possible!

So about the chicks : )
Chick B --
BlueCM over ? Orp likely or poss. Ameraucana based on egg shell color
Feathers looked black wet, but dry they are 90% a rich SILVER grey so BLUE woohoo there are a few blonde strands on the wing tips and chin, and poss. a few black so maybe actually SPLASH ? Skin is pink.
Also, these eggs were the exact same size, but B is HUGE almost twice as long head to butt, and feet 2x the size of W

Chick W (The Love-child egg)
Mutt parents on both sides
Appears all black , feet have pink toes, skin is pink

Also DH is convinced they are both male, based on Great-grandpa's day 1 sexing method that has something to do w/ if they have a tiny comb looking area, which vanishes in a day or so but eventually returns as a real roo comb, apparently judging this is all relative and based on decades of looking. While pullets of course would be best, LIVE is all I really care about at this time.

I'll try to get some pics. later today...

You must be exhausted! Fingers crossed that the chicks progress well and last egg hatches on its own.

 

[mlm Mike]

UPDATE - sorry if this isn't well typed, only 2 hrs sleep

Checked at about midnight
Egg B had launched itself out of the half shell but had a bad hernia and was still very attached w/ visable 2 veins w/ red blood & some obvious blood in the membrane in the shell. I knew better than to mess w/ it and just let it be, I keep watch...

Around 1-2 am
Having "hatched" Chick B finally had the stregth to start trying to hold its head up and try to stand, all the thrashing and peeping got
Egg W excited and W got its head , neck & 1 wing out of the membrane but was then completely exhausted, I had to move its upper body back onto wet towel a couple times b/c it was sticking to the burlap which I figured would not help matters at all.

By 4 am
Chick B was walking somewhat (slightly curled toes) still draging an attached shell etc. it got hobbled by this cord & when I unwrapped it the cord went from pink/white back to fresh red blood! not good but it was still a closed system w/ the membrane & didn't keep filling so I let it be for a few min. then I pressed it direct pressure w/out breaking it, I pushed it as close to the eggshell as poss. and held it long enough that the part under my finger tip when clear then I left it still just in case so it couldn't leak out.

At this point Egg W became Chick W by launching itself out of the membrane & off the half shell. No hernia and the cord was clear and broke away quickly but the chick was completely exhausted and I was not very optimistic for it.

4:30 I had to get a couple hrs sleep

8:30 Chick B & Chick W still alive (HURRAY)
B still was trailing the eggshell but the cord was shriveled so I pressed it for a moment then cut it - zero blood : )
W was actually able to sit up and walk now, excellent progress : )

Both are dry but not fluffly - their down looks like stringy hair plastered to them, I guess I will have to wash them, but I'm not going to stress them that way any time soon, they aren't sticking to other things or each other so it isn't a problem.

Egg L -- I tapped and for awhile I heard nothing, was about to give up on it when I heard a flutter, a tapp and a peep <-- note a TAP none of the 3 I helped ever Tapped they could not reach the eggshell w/ their beaks! L can tap, so I think it may be able to pip on its own, I'm hoping so. The first peep from it was at 9pm last night, 12.5 hrs ago now, but it is MaranxMaran dark egg, and I'm just going give it another several hrs before I consider doing a pip for it. I would REALLY like a natural hatch to happen if at all possible!

So about the chicks : )
Chick B --
BlueCM over ? Orp likely or poss. Ameraucana based on egg shell color
Feathers looked black wet, but dry they are 90% a rich SILVER grey so BLUE woohoo there are a few blonde strands on the wing tips and chin, and poss. a few black so maybe actually SPLASH ? Skin is pink.
Also, these eggs were the exact same size, but B is HUGE almost twice as long head to butt, and feet 2x the size of W

Chick W (The Love-child egg)
Mutt parents on both sides
Appears all black , feet have pink toes, skin is pink

Also DH is convinced they are both male, based on Great-grandpa's day 1 sexing method that has something to do w/ if they have a tiny comb looking area, which vanishes in a day or so but eventually returns as a real roo comb, apparently judging this is all relative and based on decades of looking. While pullets of course would be best, LIVE is all I really care about at this time.

I'll try to get some pics. later today...

I'm glad things are improving, still stressful, but you have chicks. Come on egg L!