I know right! It is logical thats what the thread is about.... I am proud to get through that with the help of ron and tons of others from BYC, and be able to go out an process any time I need to. Do I like to kill a chicken NO, is it part of life, YES, we eat meant plain and simple. they help me get through and back to reality, part of which this world is loosing very quickly in the past 50 years.... Great group of people to help out when you need them, full of information on the thread too. just processed 27 roosters and did the deed myself and couldnt have done it without Ron and the others, thats why I love me Ron I did and too many!!! thanks for that!!