A Bielefelder Thread !

[Bine]

may not be the best exsample, your right, the tail is a little to strait and he has not a good but... this drawing is better...here you can see how the wings should be on the body, too. back line, wing line, chest and butt almost parallel, and a comb that follows the shape of the head.


I am traped by my love for my

tiny birds... more feathers than meat ... and not much between neck and tail. but a big beard ... even bigger for the ladies.....

 

[TNBielefelder]

may not be the best exsample, your right, the tail is a little to strait and he has not a good but... this drawing is better...here you can see how the wings should be on the body, too. back line, wing line, chest and butt almost parallel, and a comb that follows the shape of the head.



YES! I think the drawing is much better. Straight long back with the tail coming out of the back at an obtuse angle. I really like the full comb on the rooster in the video you posted. This is something we need to be selective about in our breeding here in the states. Correct combs, straight back with the tail flowing out of the back at the correct angle and distinct color patterns are most of the trouble areas I see. I think we are doing a lot of things well like Body Size, Temperament, eye color, beaks, deep chest, and most importantly egg size and production. Skin color could also be better.

 

[LowerBamaMama]

My roo's wing were very saggy, not held up to his sides very tightly and you could see the flight feathers hanging down. Is this a breeding issue? Or developed because of something in his housing? Nature or nurture?
Eta: his tail was also bent to the left at about a 30 degree angle... Wondering if it's poor breeding from the man I got him from?

 

[otakalhasas]

Agreed! I'd love to see photos. You never know, eh!?

 

[LowerBamaMama]

Agreed!  I'd love to see photos.  You never know, eh!?​

Can't take any pictures cause the neighbors dog ate him. That's why I'm wondering about wether or not to keep buying from the same man. My remaining Biel pullet seems to conform pretty well. I never thought about Titus being out of conformation till I saw the sketch above.

 

[otakalhasas]

I am so very sorry - that is such a pity.

 

[LowerBamaMama]

I am so very sorry - that is such a pity.

Thanks. I'm wanting a good duel purpose breed and was pretty set on the Biels but now* after hearing about their heat intolerance I'm wondering if I shouldn't reconsider. I was very drawn to the auto sexing function, hence my questions regarding preserving auto sexing in crosses. I still have a Birl hen but I'm gonna do some research on a breed (eta:for a roo to cross with the Biel) that continues to auto sexing feature but maybe brings in a better tolerance to our extremely hot summers.

 

[otakalhasas]

I hear you, the heat problem is giving me concern as well. Right now I'm looking into Cream Legbars which are also auto-sexed. While they don't lay a huge egg, it is a very pretty blue egg.

But then again, I see that Greenfire Farms is in Florida, of all places. Given that I've recently moved to NC from the Sunshine State, I can guarantee you that it is HOT and HUMID down there 11 months out of the year. And Omega Hills is in Alabama, also a pretty sultry state. So maybe their stock is becoming acclimated????

 

[LowerBamaMama]

I'm in Alabama about 15 minutes from the Florida State line and 20 minutes from Georgia. It's HOT here. I wouldn't count on them being acclimate thought. You don't know the conditions they keep their birds in. For all I know, they're in climate controlled housing lol
I'm invested in my Biel lady. She's sweet and gentle seems to be doing ok with the heat. No eggs yet so I can't speak to how she lays in our summers. I'm hoping for those jumbo eggs and good body weight for meat. I wonder how a leg and Biel cross would do. Maybe an olive egger? I've heard blue crossed with brown gives olive? Can anyone correct me on that?
And maybe they'd still be auto sexing?

 

[otakalhasas]

I've heard the same thing - should produce olive layers. What a cool thought!!!!!