A century of Turkey talk 2000-2100.

The pn gene is not completely recessive and a person knowing what they are looking for should be able to spot its effects. One of the first things stated is that not all recessive color genes are completely recessive. There are also the 2 sex related genes brown (e) and Narragansett (n) that hens can only ever have one copy since it is only attached to the male chromosome.

From what I have noticed it is possible to visually tell that a Bourbon Red is carrying a Black Winged Bronze color gene. In my opinion a very high percentage of the Bourbon Red hatching eggs being sold on eBay come from turkeys that are not pure Bourbon Reds but ones carrying the Black Winged Bronze color gene.

If you breed a pair of Harvest Gold together, you have a 6.25% chance of getting a Sweetgrass. A Harvest Gold mating can produce lots of different color varieties such as Black Winged Bronze, Cornish Palm, Regal Red, Light Red, Sweetgrass, Red Sweetgrass, Fall Fire and of course more Harvest Gold.

Good luck.
So what would you look for to know if a Bourbon Red carried the blackwinged bronze color? I don't have Cinnamon any more, but I have photos I took of him. I did try to compare those to Porter's other red type turkeys, but concluded he looked pretty much like a Bourbon Red.
 
So what would you look for to know if a Bourbon Red carried the blackwinged bronze color? I don't have Cinnamon any more, but I have photos I took of him. I did try to compare those to Porter's other red type turkeys, but concluded he looked pretty much like a Bourbon Red.
From what I have seen, pure Bourbon Reds have tail feathers that are white with top end of them mostly red. They may have a couple of solid red tail feathers on each side. I believe that the ones with a half a dozen or so solid red tail feathers on each side are carrying the b1 color gene.
 
R2elk is there a reason some "bronze" Toms are nearly black and some brown?

I see pictures both ways. My favorite one (body wise) is black from the front but has the bronze marking on wings and tail... He was directly from Porters, I ended up with 3 from hs eggs, They all are blacker than I expected.

I even checked pictures on different sites to figure out if he was a bronze or a black of some kind. The hens are the nice bronze color I expected..

I will try to get a picture...
 
20170703_195149.jpg Now they are just being nosey.lol I'm serious I like these guys way more than the other turkeys. They are just FRIENDLY
 

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