A century of Turkey talk 2000-2100.

[duluthralphie]

I would leave it as is. While that may work best for @rjohns39 with his current set up, it does not mean that everyone should switch to that. It also does not mean that if he switches to a different set up that his optimum will not change.

Since turkey eggs are 28 days I would wait until day 14 to candle. If you want to candle sooner, it won't hurt anything.

It is my experience, the bigger the eggs are, the worse they handle shipping. It has also been my experience that buying live chicks, poults, etc. ends up being cheaper in the long run no matter how expensive it seem at first.

Local feed stores (not chain feed stores) can be a wealth of information about who is raising what. Prior to its closing, I often got calls from people looking for the poultry I was raising at the time due to referrals from that local feed store.

Posting a wanted ad on craigslist can also turn up results.

I have never had an issue with the minimums set by hatcheries. They are there for the health and safety of the poultry being shipped. When ordering the minimum from a hatchery, I have either made arrangements ahead of time to split the order with a neighbor or I have posted an ad and sold the extras as soon as they have arrived.

As far as Midget Whites go, I believe it is @duluthralphie that has pointed out that they don't actually exist anymore. I believe that the claims are that those being sold now have been recreated and not necessarily to the original standard.

Yep. That is the case with midget whites. The genetics were lost, some people are selling birds as midget whites and they maybe close, but there not midgets..

Sort of like a hairy elephant might look like a wooly mammoths, but it’s not one.

But I gave up on the midget white fight and decided to let people be deceived..

Of course, then the faux story about some guy in Alabama or Arkansas or one of those places too hot for humans to inhabit had some and didn’t know it and these are all descendants of those...yadda yadda yadda

 

[Flashpoint]

I would leave it as is. While that may work best for @rjohns39 with his current set up, it does not mean that everyone should switch to that. It also does not mean that if he switches to a different set up that his optimum will not change.

Point taken - again, there are so many folks, including on BYC and other "chicken sites" and the so-called "scientists" that vary the range.

Since turkey eggs are 28 days I would wait until day 14 to candle. If you want to candle sooner, it won't hurt anything.

From BYC, other websites, the two breeders I have dealt with, and the one small sad experience I had (hatched on day 26) - many say the midget white poults tend to hatch on day 26. I cannot speak if that is the norm across the board because hardly anyone has a definitive answer.

It is my experience, the bigger the eggs are, the worse they handle shipping. It has also been my experience that buying live chicks, poults, etc. ends up being cheaper in the long run no matter how expensive it seem at first.

The eggs I have are large chicken egg sizes. I have an extra large chicken egg here today that is much larger.

I do not know a single person around me for 30 miles that raises turkeys. Hagerstown MD and east have more people. Well, there was one lady who raised two tom turkeys - who were always in the roadway when I went by. I haven't seen them for two years, so I can only assume they were Thanksgiving and Christmas.

The county has approx 72,000 people of which at least 32,000 plus live in the small towns and other areas. It is a farming/agricultural county for the most part for crops, dairy, and beef. A large portion is taken up by State Parks and the prison system. The part I live in may have 20 people per square mile - mostly all the same family members. lol I believe, right off the bat, there may be 15 people in the square mile around my home. And, I am the "outsider" although I have lived here for 30 years.

Some folks raise chickens - no one I know has turkeys. They are more apt to have a pig or a goat.

Local feed stores (not chain feed stores) can be a wealth of information about who is raising what. Prior to its closing, I often got calls from people looking for the poultry I was raising at the time due to referrals from that local feed store.

There is a Southern States in Cumberland (30 miles), an old timey feed mill near Everett PA (30 miles) - and TSC (either one 30 miles). I haven't tried advertising through TSC. That said, I haven't been inside any of them in years.

Posting a wanted ad on craigslist can also turn up results.

hmmm. You do not want to know my experiences with craigslist even when giving birds away.

I have never had an issue with the minimums set by hatcheries. They are there for the health and safety of the poultry being shipped. When ordering the minimum from a hatchery, I have either made arrangements ahead of time to split the order with a neighbor or I have posted an ad and sold the extras as soon as they have arrived.

See above lolol

I agree with the minimums other than I have no need nor the room for 20 of them. Selling is an issue if there is no one willing to pay - and MOST people have told me I live too far away (but they will joyfully ride by here on their way to Deep Creek Lake in Garrett Co.)

As far as Midget Whites go, I believe it is @duluthralphie that has pointed out that they don't actually exist anymore. I believe that the claims are that those being sold now have been recreated and not necessarily to the original standard.

Yes, I am aware they are not the originals but are as close as I can get. All I wanted was a small friendly turkey for my small (mostly) friendly farmette. My only other choice was the Beltsville small white which is a larger (medium) turkey. I already have larger with the Narragansett.

Thanks, R2elk - you always have good information and it's very much appreciated.

 

[Flashpoint]

Yes, I am aware they are not the originals but are as close as I can get. All I wanted was a small friendly turkey for my small (mostly) friendly farmette. My only other choice was the Beltsville small white which is a larger (medium) turkey. I already have larger with the Narragansett.

Thanks, R2elk - you always have good information and it's very much appreciated.

Argggggg 2/3rds of my post is missing!

 

[Flashpoint]

Argggggg 2/3rds of my post is missing!

Shew! I found it in history - this is what I had written to begin with.

***********************************

I would leave it as is. While that may work best for @rjohns39 with his current set up, it does not mean that everyone should switch to that. It also does not mean that if he switches to a different set up that his optimum will not change.

Point taken - again, there are so many folks, including on BYC and other "chicken sites" and the so-called "scientists" that vary the range.

Since turkey eggs are 28 days I would wait until day 14 to candle. If you want to candle sooner, it won't hurt anything.

From BYC, other websites, the two breeders I have dealt with, and the one small sad experience I had (hatched on day 26) - many say the midget white poults tend to hatch on day 26. I cannot speak if that is the norm across the board because hardly anyone has a definitive answer.

It is my experience, the bigger the eggs are, the worse they handle shipping. It has also been my experience that buying live chicks, poults, etc. ends up being cheaper in the long run no matter how expensive it seem at first.

The eggs I have are large chicken egg sizes. I have an extra large chicken egg here today that is much larger.

I do not know a single person around me for 30 miles that raises turkeys. Hagerstown MD and east have more people. Well, there was one lady who raised two tom turkeys - who were always in the roadway when I went by. I haven't seen them for two years, so I can only assume they were Thanksgiving and Christmas.

The county has approx 72,000 people of which at least 32,000 plus live in the small towns and other areas. It is a farming/agricultural county for the most part for crops, dairy, and beef. A large portion is taken up by State Parks and the prison system. The part I live in may have 20 people per square mile - mostly all the same family members. lol I believe, right off the bat, there may be 15 people in the square mile around my home. And, I am the "outsider" although I have lived here for 30 years.

Some folks raise chickens - no one I know has turkeys. They are more apt to have a pig or a goat.

Local feed stores (not chain feed stores) can be a wealth of information about who is raising what. Prior to its closing, I often got calls from people looking for the poultry I was raising at the time due to referrals from that local feed store.

There is a Southern States in Cumberland (30 miles), an old timey feed mill near Everett PA (30 miles) - and TSC (either one 30 miles). I haven't tried advertising through TSC. That said, I haven't been inside any of them in years.

Posting a wanted ad on craigslist can also turn up results.

hmmm. You do not want to know my experiences with craigslist even when giving birds away.

I have never had an issue with the minimums set by hatcheries. They are there for the health and safety of the poultry being shipped. When ordering the minimum from a hatchery, I have either made arrangements ahead of time to split the order with a neighbor or I have posted an ad and sold the extras as soon as they have arrived.

See above lolol

I agree with the minimums other than I have no need nor the room for 20 of them. Selling is an issue if there is no one willing to pay - and MOST people have told me I live too far away (but they will joyfully ride by here on their way to Deep Creek Lake in Garrett Co.)

As far as Midget Whites go, I believe it is @duluthralphie that has pointed out that they don't actually exist anymore. I believe that the claims are that those being sold now have been recreated and not necessarily to the original standard.

Yes, I am aware they are not the originals but are as close as I can get. All I wanted was a small friendly turkey for my small (mostly) friendly farmette. My only other choice was the Beltsville small white which is a larger (medium) turkey. I already have larger with the Narragansett.

Thanks, R2elk - you always have good information and it's very much appreciated.

 

[R2elk]

Argggggg 2/3rds of my post is missing!

It was never missing. It is best to not write your reply inside the quotes because most people will miss it especially when it turns into a condensed post.

If you want to respond to individual points in a post, it is best to use your pointer to highlight the text that you want to respond to and click on the reply button. Type your response after the quote and repeat as many times as there are points you want to directly respond to. This will show individual blue boxes with your replies between them like I did in post #25692.

 

[memphis]

I bet the midgets are cuties! I've never seen one in person. Daisy is x-large! I think its middle age spread! She's a bit of a tank right now. Amazingly she still gets her fat butt off the ground. Still flies around the back in the morning. Then spends the rest if the day in a wadding pool or in front of a fan.

 

[duluthralphie]

I bet the midgets are cuties! I've never seen one in person. Daisy is x-large! I think its middle age spread! She's a bit of a tank right now. Amazingly she still gets her fat butt off the ground. Still flies around the back in the morning. Then spends the rest if the day in a wadding pool or in front of a fan.

I had fan hogs today. They all stood in front of the fan wings at half mask soaking up any breeze they could...

 

[Flashpoint]

It was never missing. It is best to not write your reply inside the quotes because most people will miss it especially when it turns into a condensed post.

If you want to respond to individual points in a post, it is best to use your pointer to highlight the text that you want to respond to and click on the reply button. Type your response after the quote and repeat as many times as there are points you want to directly respond to. This will show individual blue boxes with your replies between them like I did in post #25692.

Ok, so I get to practice! Won't be right now - power went out from a bad storm, had to go wrap the incubator and get the generator started. 3 hours minimum before power is back.

 

[Flashpoint]

I bet the midgets are cuties! I've never seen one in person. Daisy is x-large! I think its middle age spread! She's a bit of a tank right now. Amazingly she still gets her fat butt off the ground. Still flies around the back in the morning. Then spends the rest if the day in a wadding pool or in front of a fan.

Memphis - I have not seen one in person either. First time will be if one of these eggs hatch! As to Daisy - we all know how spoiled she is - including Daisy lol.

I spent time refreshing water for everyone - and running the sprinkler over Tommie. It was up to 97 here today.

 

[memphis]

Does Tommie like the sprinkler? They all like playing in a sprinkler here. Even the chickens! As I'm watering, Daisy likes to stick her feet under the water. Yep....guess she's pretty spoiled!

Ralph, I feel so sorry for them when they drop those wings & pant! Glad yours have fans!!