A century of Turkey talk 2000-2100.

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Just got back from California delivering pharmaceuticals as always. šŸš›šŸš›šŸš› Got home around 8am. It's Just a little past 2pm now. What a horrific and said day. When my husband and I pulled up in the drive I thought somthing was wrong because no turkeys, chickens or ducks came to great us as always. So we got out of the car and went around the house to fined a massacre. Blood and feathers every where. All my chickens, ducks and turkeys gone. Found one dead chicken. Then found one of my turkey hens on her back unable to upright herself. I ran to help her. Then my son found one down around the tree line with alot of her neck tour open but alive. My husband yells it's dogs. Dogs did this. The back yard full of tracks in the mud. My husband grabs two guns and gives me one. We start looking for servivers and body's. I still only have found one body. After about a hour my son finds another turkey hen. She is in bad shape too. Big amount of flesh and meat out of her back. Then we found one turkey Tom hiding in a dog house the ducks use for egg laying. He's beat up a bit but not bad. He's in shock I think. We keep finding chickens wandering around toward the house. No idea where they are coming from. Still have alot missing. Found all the ducks. Some was in the next door neighbors pond. Some in the cat house. My pour babies. Still missing half my chickens and one turkey Tom and one turkey hen.
We are going to do the SSS method. Shot shovel say nothing. The sheriff told us about this method.
😭 the next door neighbors just came up and found one of my turkeys. She's dead.
We called a bird Dr a few minutes ago and waiting for her to call us back she does make house calls.
Body cout is up to 3 now and it's just after 3pm. View attachment 2882047View attachment 2882048
So very sorry to here, that would be devastating. I know you really cared for your birds. Sorry I have no words to ease how you must feel, but hopefully more will return unharmed.
 
I’m so sorry for your devastation. I think your husband is right, it was probably a dog or more than one dog. I hope it doesn’t come back, or that you are able to prevent it from ever killing poultry again. I hope the rest of your chickens are just hiding and make their way home.

So awful.
Thank you.
My turkey hens survived the night. My Husband just called and said he found a vet that will try to help them. We have to travel a hour but that's ok. Thank goodness we found someone that will help my girls. We sent the vet pictures and she said you would be surprised what turkeys can survive and that she has seen worse. I'm very hopeful now they will make it.
No one else has come home.
 
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Warning sad story and graphic pictures :hit:hit:hit
Just got back from California delivering pharmaceuticals as always. šŸš›šŸš›šŸš› Got home around 8am. It's Just a little past 2pm now. What a horrific and said day. When my husband and I pulled up in the drive I thought somthing was wrong because no turkeys, chickens or ducks came to great us as always. So we got out of the car and went around the house to fined a massacre. Blood and feathers every where. All my chickens, ducks and turkeys gone. Found one dead chicken. Then found one of my turkey hens on her back unable to upright herself. I ran to help her. Then my son found one down around the tree line with alot of her neck tour open but alive. My husband yells it's dogs. Dogs did this. The back yard full of tracks in the mud. My husband grabs two guns and gives me one. We start looking for servivers and body's. I still only have found one body. After about a hour my son finds another turkey hen. She is in bad shape too. Big amount of flesh and meat out of her back. Then we found one turkey Tom hiding in a dog house the ducks use for egg laying. He's beat up a bit but not bad. He's in shock I think. We keep finding chickens wandering around toward the house. No idea where they are coming from. Still have alot missing. Found all the ducks. Some was in the next door neighbors pond. Some in the cat house. My pour babies. Still missing half my chickens and one turkey Tom and one turkey hen.
We are going to do the SSS method. Shot shovel say nothing. The sheriff told us about this method.
😭 the next door neighbors just came up and found one of my turkeys. She's dead.
We called a bird Dr a few minutes ago and waiting for her to call us back she does make house calls.
Body cout is up to 3 now and it's just after 3pm. View attachment 2882047View attachment 2882048
Sorry for your losses and prayers they recover
 
This one is just a Mottled black. If it were a "barred" version, then there wouldn't be white feathers but bronze feathers.
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so the top one is a tri colored mottled black, but this bottom one, whose mom is a black winged Narragansett (b'b' n-)
And dad is tri colored mottled slate (Bb' cgcg Dd) so is she something like Bb' cgcg n-
The black winged Narragansett mother was a royal palm ( b'b' cgcg n-) And sire was a red bronze carrying Narragansett (bb' r n cg)
It's crazy how they can look so different from each other in a short time
 
I got my booster shot on Friday and it hit me harder then the others (which did like nothing). I felt like absolute sick garbage, but I drug myself out of bed and went out to hang out with the kids. They made me feel a lot better. Love them.

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It helped that it was also a beautiful day out. I love watching these guys just screw around doing turkey things. The kids keep trying to fight the geese through the wire. If they get grabbed I think they might learn to leave them alone lol
 
@Devils Flower-

What a horrifying thing to come home to. :( You have my condolences. I hope you can see justice served.

Your vet is correct - turkeys are surprisingly hardy. I strongly advise following whatever advice she gives; however, I would like to share my experience with deep wounds:

A couple years ago, I had three hens wounded by my breeding tom's spurs. Each had gashes in her side about 3/4 deep and of varying lengths. Bourbons (and possibly other breeds?) are very particualar about keeping wounds clean, and would scrape any ointment (Bag Balm, drawing salve, etc.) off within about a half hour of application. Due to the location I couldn't cover them with a wrap.

A few years back, I read an article about someone (don't remember the source) using colloidal silver ointment to treat a chicken wounded by dogs. Like your hens, she was suffered from huge wounds. I gave it a shot - applied 3x daily, it kept the wounds moist and clean enough to heal with minor scarring. I still have two of those hens (lost one to old age this year, she was six or seven IIRC) and they are as healthy as ever.

I hope your birds can heal, and wish you all the best of luck. :hugs

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The kids keep trying to fight the geese through the wire. If they get grabbed I think they might learn to leave them alone lol

Mine are dumb; getting grabbed makes them fight harder.
 
View attachment 2883667View attachment 2883668so the top one is a tri colored mottled black, but this bottom one, whose mom is a black winged Narragansett (b'b' n-)
And dad is tri colored mottled slate (Bb' cgcg Dd) so is she something like Bb' cgcg n-
The black winged Narragansett mother was a royal palm ( b'b' cgcg n-) And sire was a red bronze carrying Narragansett (bb' r n cg)
It's crazy how they can look so different from each other in a short time

The gene causing the difference in color is the narragansett gene (n).
If the feathers on the lower back have dark egdes, then they don't are homozygous/hemizygous.

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If they are white, then they are expressing the narragansett gene.

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Just based alone on the pictures I can tell you that your tri colored mottled slate (Bb' cgcg Dd) must actually have been Bb' cgcg Dd Nn (a narragansett carrier).
As this gene is sex-linked, there's no other possibility.
 
The gene causing the difference in color is the narragansett gene (n).
If the feathers on the lower back have dark egdes, then they don't are homozygous/hemizygous.

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If they are white, then they are expressing the narragansett gene.

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Just based alone on the pictures I can tell you that your tri colored mottled slate (Bb' cgcg Dd) must actually have been Bb' cgcg Dd Nn (a narragansett carrier).
As this gene is sex-linked, there's no other possibility.
actually, with what you say, the sire of this particular female was the son of the tri colored mottled slate by way of Rosabelle, the Royal palm hen. She gave Bright a hidden narragansett (b'b' cgcg Nn) He was running with the flock at the same time as Slater and this proves he managed to breed a few hens. That probably places the black hen as mother of these, there is a black girl out there.
 
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@Devils Flower-

What a horrifying thing to come home to. :( You have my condolences. I hope you can see justice served.

Your vet is correct - turkeys are surprisingly hardy. I strongly advise following whatever advice she gives; however, I would like to share my experience with deep wounds:

A couple years ago, I had three hens wounded by my breeding tom's spurs. Each had gashes in her side about 3/4 deep and of varying lengths. Bourbons (and possibly other breeds?) are very particualar about keeping wounds clean, and would scrape any ointment (Bag Balm, drawing salve, etc.) off within about a half hour of application. Due to the location I couldn't cover them with a wrap.

A few years back, I read an article about someone (don't remember the source) using colloidal silver ointment to treat a chicken wounded by dogs. Like your hens, she was suffered from huge wounds. I gave it a shot - applied 3x daily, it kept the wounds moist and clean enough to heal with minor scarring. I still have two of those hens (lost one to old age this year, she was six or seven IIRC) and they are as healthy as ever.

I hope your birds can heal, and wish you all the best of luck. :hugs

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Mine are dumb; getting grabbed makes them fight harder.
Thank you.
My girls will be home tomorrow. The vet has keeped them for 2.5 days. They will have to get shots every day in the chest and bandages changed every couple of days. The vet put some type of gel over the wounds that sills it off from air,dirt and flies after 14 days it starts to drop off. Leaving to New skin in place.
There wasn't much flesh left for her to suture but she was able to do a little bit. They will always be deformed the vet said.
 

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