A new Serama-sized game bantam

[AnnaWolf]

So you're saying this:

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Does not have "smaller" legs than this?:

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I am not saying that, I am saying that Dutch don't have really short legs.
Do you know the breed of the second picture?

 

[RaineyTN]

It’s a picture of one of the hens the guy bred in this thread

 

[Florida Bullfrog]

I am not saying that, I am saying that Dutch don't have really short legs.
Do you know the breed of the second picture?

Yes that’s one of my hens. To my eyes, a Dutch bantam bred to the show standards has much shorter legs than these birds that’s I’m developing. My birds retain an athletic body, or at least that’s the goal when I’m done with them.

More recent pics:

 

[Florida Bullfrog]

They’ve outsized my original goal, where the pullets that are now laying weigh 18 oz each and the cockerel is 24oz. That puts them all within the ranges of OEGBs and Dutch bantams. However, I still consider it an achievement that they’re in that size range but with long, atheltic legs, where those other two breeds save weight by chopping the legs short.

 

[RoostersAreAwesome]

Yes that’s one of my hens. To my eyes, a Dutch bantam bred to the show standards has much shorter legs than these birds that’s I’m developing. My birds retain an athletic body, or at least that’s the goal when I’m done with them.

More recent pics:
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Hatchery Dutch often have legs of a normal length due to not being bred strictly to standard.
Comparison photos of your micro game bantams and your OEGBs would be interesting to see.

 

[Florida Bullfrog]

These are two OEGB hens used in creation of the American game bantam line, both paired to Tyrant the Cracker brood cock in this top photo. Since then no new blood has been added, everything has been line bred to the F1s. This micro line comes from breeding the F2s to their F1 uncle. The F1 uncle is consistently throwing these small, long legged, birds across multiple hens, including a small frame Cracker hen I put him to.

I did have some longer legged OEGB grey hens that came off of a farm near me and a self-blue rooster I obtained as a feral chick from another part of the state that I considered an OEGB, but may have actually been an AGB. Their genetics never made it into the line.

 

[Florida Bullfrog]

The brood cock above is my chosen American game bantam brood cock. He is brother to hen on the left and uncle to the hen on the right. He is father of all the micro birds. The mother to all the micro birds is the hen on the right and a BBR sister to that hen that died after their clutch was incubated.

 

[RoostersAreAwesome]

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These are two OEGB hens used in creation of the American game bantam line, both paired to Tyrant the Cracker brood cock in this top photo. Since then no new blood has been added, everything has been line bred to the F1s. This micro line comes from breeding the F2s to their F1 uncle. The F1 uncle is consistently throwing these small, long legged, birds across multiple hens, including a small frame Cracker hen I put him to.

I did have some longer legged OEGB grey hens that came off of a farm near me and a self-blue rooster I obtained as a feral chick from another part of the state that I considered an OEGB, but may have actually been an AGB. Their genetics never made it into the line.

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You can really see the difference, nice!
Is there any particular reason you didn’t breed in the other OEGBs?

 

[Florida Bullfrog]

Both the brood cock and the hen on the left are F1s to the original pairing of the Cracker brood cock to OEGB hens.

 

[Florida Bullfrog]

You can really see the difference, nice!
Is there any particular reason you didn’t breed in the other OEGBs?

Originally I didn’t want to deal with the grey color. I only wanted to make BBR and ended up with both BBR and Blue Red, where one of the OEGBs had a little blue in her. I sent all of the OEGBs to a family farm and I figured I could tap into their genetics later. Unfortunately predators took all of the OEGBs on that farm over the past 6 months, including the self-blue brood cock. Otherwise I may have tried the grey hens later, maybe in a new line pairing them to Number 1 my Cracker brood cock and then crossing the unrelated birds from that line to my current AGB line to freshen up their genes while keeping their traits. The greys had nice physiques and so did the self blue brood cock. Thankfully the Cracker genetics have given me the physique I want. But it would have been a good experiment to see what the greys gave me.