Am I reading this right?

Discussion in 'Local Chicken Laws & Ordinances (and how to change' started by backtobasics, Jan 16, 2010.

  1. backtobasics

    backtobasics New Egg

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    I'm looking over my local regulations and need another pair of eyes. I live just outside city limits, in an unincorporated county area. When first asking about county poulty laws, I was given this excerpt:
    Poultry, chickens, squab, rabbits, hamsters, nutria, and chinchilla are limited to a
    maximum of one animal per square foot of structure used to house such animals, up
    to a maximum of 2,000 square feet.

    I thought- wow! I can have 2,000 chickens! (I'm really not planning on having anywhere near that many... I just thought that was pretty cool that I had the option.)

    Then I actually found the county document, and they didn't give me the whole scoop. Here is the full doc: www.kingcounty.gov/property/permits/publications/~/.../bulletins/41a.ashx (I'm not sure if this link is going to work- it's a PDF. If it takes you to the 'not found' page, just put "41a" into the search box and it's the first result.)

    So if I'm reading this correctly, you can have:
    - under 1/2 an acre = 3 chickens
    - over 1/2 an acre = 2,000 chickens

    Seriously? Am I reading that right? I have a little under 1/2 an acre. [​IMG] I was planning on starting with just a few, but expanding the flock down the line if things went well.​
     
  2. backtobasics

    backtobasics New Egg

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    oops- forgot to subscribe [​IMG]
     
  3. BarkerChickens

    BarkerChickens Microbrewing Chickenologist

    Nov 25, 2007
    High Desert, CA
    Sounds like it to me! Holy Moly that is a lot of chickens! [​IMG]
     
  4. backtobasics

    backtobasics New Egg

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    Quote:I know! That's why I was so impressed with the regulations.... but now I'm just annoyed that I only get 3. [​IMG]
     
  5. BarkerChickens

    BarkerChickens Microbrewing Chickenologist

    Nov 25, 2007
    High Desert, CA
    Quote:I know! That's why I was so impressed with the regulations.... but now I'm just annoyed that I only get 3. [​IMG]

    We are in just under a 1/2 acre and are allowed 10 chickens including 1 roo. We have 28 hens and 2 roosters. [​IMG] No one complains though!
     
  6. theFox

    theFox Chillin' With My Peeps

    Sep 21, 2009
    Standish, Maine
    Quote:I thought- wow! I can have 2,000 chickens! (I'm really not planning on having anywhere near that many... I just thought that was pretty cool that I had the option.)

    Then I actually found the county document, and they didn't give me the whole scoop. Here is the full doc: www.kingcounty.gov/property/permits/publications/~/.../bulletins/41a.ashx (I'm not sure if this link is going to work- it's a PDF. If it takes you to the 'not found' page, just put "41a" into the search box and it's the first result.)

    So if I'm reading this correctly, you can have:
    - under 1/2 an acre = 3 chickens
    - over 1/2 an acre = 2,000 chickens

    Seriously? Am I reading that right? I have a little under 1/2 an acre. [​IMG] I was planning on starting with just a few, but expanding the flock down the line if things went well.

    Chickens are not pets the part that applies for chickens is D 3 which is what they originally told you, now make certain that if a permit is needed to put up the coop get it and make certain that you follow all codes that apply. Frequently the one that nails folks are the line setback requirements.
     
  7. backtobasics

    backtobasics New Egg

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    Quote:I thought- wow! I can have 2,000 chickens! (I'm really not planning on having anywhere near that many... I just thought that was pretty cool that I had the option.)

    Then I actually found the county document, and they didn't give me the whole scoop. Here is the full doc: www.kingcounty.gov/property/permits/publications/~/.../bulletins/41a.ashx (I'm not sure if this link is going to work- it's a PDF. If it takes you to the 'not found' page, just put "41a" into the search box and it's the first result.)

    So if I'm reading this correctly, you can have:
    - under 1/2 an acre = 3 chickens
    - over 1/2 an acre = 2,000 chickens

    Seriously? Am I reading that right? I have a little under 1/2 an acre. [​IMG] I was planning on starting with just a few, but expanding the flock down the line if things went well.

    Chickens are not pets the part that applies for chickens is D 3 which is what they originally told you, now make certain that if a permit is needed to put up the coop get it and make certain that you follow all codes that apply. Frequently the one that nails folks are the line setback requirements.

    hmmm... I was reading it that chickens were considered as "small animals" (because of the definition at the end of the doc) so would be considered under the 2A as well.

    Would the coop permit rules be a separate regulation? In the city limits, it's all specified in the same place (# of animals, distance from property lines, etc.) I guess I should look around a little more.
     
  8. theFox

    theFox Chillin' With My Peeps

    Sep 21, 2009
    Standish, Maine
    Quote:Chickens are not pets the part that applies for chickens is D 3 which is what they originally told you, now make certain that if a permit is needed to put up the coop get it and make certain that you follow all codes that apply. Frequently the one that nails folks are the line setback requirements.

    hmmm... I was reading it that chickens were considered as "small animals" (because of the definition at the end of the doc) so would be considered under the 2A as well.

    Would the coop permit rules be a separate regulation? In the city limits, it's all specified in the same place (# of animals, distance from property lines, etc.) I guess I should look around a little more.

    Building codes, plumbing codes, electrical codes, what ever applies for an accessory use building will be what you need to find. Frequently there are limits on the size and number of out buildings depending upon lot size. Zoning laws (and other legal restrictions) have been known to prevent more than a certain area amount of land to be covered by buildings, paved surfaces, or even cleared of trees.
     
  9. theFox

    theFox Chillin' With My Peeps

    Sep 21, 2009
    Standish, Maine
    2 A Is for small animals that are normally considered household pets but are kept outdoors. An example would be a dog used to protect the property, a dog is considered a household pet, and guard dogs are usually kept outside.

    If you take a close look at 2 D they place setback requirements for aviaries and certain mammal pens. The one for the mammal pens would likely make it impossible for one to have even one of them on less than an acre and a half, in fact I have more than three acres but the set backs would preclude me from having a single mink or fox (which is comical since we have red and gray fox, fisher, and likely mink).

    Oh, as an aside, any building here has to be at least 50 feet from all property lines in this zone and that is before you get to what is a minimum build able lot size.
     
    Last edited: Jan 17, 2010
  10. OrpingtonManor

    OrpingtonManor Building the Castle

    Nov 15, 2008
    Martinez, CA
    you can have a maximum of 3 on lots up to 20,000sf
    max of 5 on lots between 20,000 and 35,000
    max of one additional bird per 2 acres if you have over 35,000sf

    you cannot have more chickens that one per square foot of the building that houses them,
    so if your coop is 4x4=16sf, then your max is 16, but you must have enough acreage to have that many or your limit is again, 3 if your lot is under 20,000sf, no matter how big your coop is.

    if you have a coop that is 2x1ft, say just a shed type with a roof, then you would be limited to 2 birds.

    if your birds live in the house with you, and have no cage (?) house is 2000sf, and your lot is under 20,000sf, your max is still 3 birds. if you have a cage for them, then you must have a cage that has at least one sf per bird.
     

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